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SrKegler

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Old school tourny - update
« on: November 25, 2003, 05:46:27 PM »
Lance Murray and Gene J. Kanak, along with a great deal of help from the wonderful members of Ballreviews.com, are proud to present:

The Victory Lanes "Old School" Open

Where: Victory Lanes--1801 W. Station Street. Kankakee, IL 60901
Date: Sunday, February 8, 2004
Times: A-squad 9:00 a.m., B-Squad 11:00 a.m., Semifinals and finals will immediately follow after re-oiling.

Cost: Standard entry fee $30.
Standard entry + plastic ball shipped to your home $80
Standard entry + plastic ball drilled by Lance Murray $90

Prize fund: Cashing will be at a 1 out of 4 ratio. The prize money (based upon the max number of 64 entries) will be as follows:
1st Place---$500
2nd Place--$250
3rd-4th------$120
5th-8th------$60
9th-16th----$30

We are currently in the process of seeking sponsorship, so the prize fund has the possibility of being increased. On the flip side, the fund will be adjusted accordingly to fit the 1 out of 4 ratio if the maximum number of entrees is not reached as well. Based upon initial interest, however, it appears that reaching 64 is well within reach.

Format: This will be a scratch event, as that was what was requested most often, and it lessens the hassle of requiring each and every bowler to provide proof of average.

5 games of qualifying across 10 lanes.
If there are 64 bowlers, the top 16 will advance to match play. If
there are fewer bowlers, the cut may move to top 8. If this is the
case, however, additional cashers may be paid out to keep the
cashing ratio at 1 of 4.

The semifinals will consist of one-game seeded match play.

The finals will be a best 2 out of 3 match for the title.

Equipment guidelines: This was perhaps the toughest decision to make, as there were a bevy of suggestions as to how to handle this. Our final thought was that the conditions that will be put out, while fair, will be more than enough to challenge the field, thus, ANY PLASTIC BALL IS ALLOWED. No rubber, no urethane, no particle, no resin. All drillings must meet ABC competition guidelines and will be checked before semifinal competition begins. Coverstock alterations will be allowed before competition begins, but is FORBIDDEN AFTER THE 1ST BALL FOR SCORE IS THROWN!

Entries: We are capping the field at 64, and, with the amount of interest this has drawn already, it is likely that we will reach that number. You can reserve your entry by mailing a check to Victory Lanes, C/O Lance Murray at the address listed above. Please be sure to indicate either on the memo line or somewhere else that your check is for the "Old School Open". Lance Murray is a member of the Regional PBA Senior Tour, and I have never had a problem with anyone on this board, so have no fear. If you do not want to pre-pay, you can also give a verbal reservation by messaging me at this site or by calling Victory Lanes (815) 939-2695. However, if we run into a situation in which we are approaching the maximum number of entries, reservations with payment will have to be given priority.

If you have any questions or comments feel free to message me back, otherwise, I look forward to hearing from all of you soon and seeing you at Victory Lanes in February. This should be a great chance to have some fun, meet some people and bowl for a pretty hefty prize fund! Be sure to tell your friends; let's make this an event we can't forget!


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Re: Old school tourny - update
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2003, 09:02:14 AM »
SO are you going to be there?

I'm actually thinking about going myself.
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SrKegler

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Re: Old school tourny - update
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2003, 09:10:19 AM »
Of, course, think I'm going to miss something right next door!  This one's only about 4 hours from me.

C'mon up, no one believes me when I tell them about your 3" approach, 1" slide.
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Re: Old school tourny - update
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2003, 09:20:12 AM »
I've been working on it it's now 6" with a 2" slide

Actually I bought some ABS shoes and use the super slide inserts,
and it has helped me out.  I also put the no slide inserts in the pushoff foot and that works wonders.  I just need to try them on some fast approches.
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Re: Old school tourny - update
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2003, 09:36:57 AM »
Wait a minute............

I have a plastic ball, and that's all well and good.....but I'm not going to go up against someone with an XXXL...that's just stupidity.  (Even though someone can beat me with a plastic ball while I"m throwing a particle !!! )...anyhow..

Please clarify the equipment rules again....and

WHERE THE HELL IS KANKAKEE !?  ON EDIT: Found it,....hour south of Chicago,...mmm that's not that far !
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Edited on 11/26/2003 10:49 AM

SrKegler

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Re: Old school tourny - update
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2003, 09:54:22 AM »
quote:
Wait a minute............

I have a plastic ball, and that's all well and good.....but I'm not going to go up against someone with an XXXL...that's just stupidity.  (Even though someone can beat me with a plastic ball while I"m throwing a particle !!! )...anyhow..

Please clarify the equipment rules again....and

WHERE THE HELL IS KANKAKEE !?
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ABOUT 75-100 MILES S/E OF CHICAGO, SHOULD BE ABOUT 4 HOURS FROM YOU.


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Jeffrevs

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Re: Old school tourny - update
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2003, 09:56:35 AM »
Seriously SrK.........

You mean you can show up with an XXXL ?  That's NOT old school..........right ?
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Re: Old school tourny - update
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2003, 11:20:20 AM »
Jeff, just bring your Yellow Dot and be done with it  Show those wrist-device wearing, Lane #1 fluffers how to roll the rock

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Re: Old school tourny - update
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2003, 11:41:10 AM »
I think equipment restrictions should be clarified.  For example, are the two piece XXXL or the clear Wolf allowed..  Also, someone mentioned the Yellow Dot.  How about the old Sur D?  People may start making their own soaker.

You may want to restrict it to hard, 3 piece plastic.

PS.  Any thought on what type of lane condtions that will be put out?

Edited on 11/26/2003 12:39 PM

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Re: Old school tourny - update
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2003, 11:58:32 AM »
Any plastic ball is allowed, including the shoreD & the yellow dot.  Not sure what lane condition is going to be put out.  The conditions will be one that rewards the bowler, not the ball.  I'm expecting a flatter gutter to gutter shot probably around 22-24'.


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Re: Old school tourny - update
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2003, 12:09:19 PM »
SureD is too soft....wasn't that ball deemed illegal ? Can't remember.....

I like the idea of the pattern Sr. K !
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Re: Old school tourny - update
« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2003, 12:14:44 PM »
What the hell is the SureD, and who made it? I'll look it up, if was deemed illegal, it will not be useable in this event. Every ball used has to be ABC approved and drilled and prepped accordingly.


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Re: Old school tourny - update
« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2003, 12:20:26 PM »
May be mistaken but I believe the ShoreD had a 72-73 hardness.  Might be mixed up with SD73.  It may have been ABC approved but not PBA approved.

Too long ago to remember.
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Re: Old school tourny - update
« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2003, 12:20:35 PM »
The Sur-D (or however it was spelled) punched too soft if I remember the sequencing correctly...I don't remember if it preceded the bleeders or was an attempt at making a soft shell.  Most Yellow Dots, even the bleeders, punch at a legal minimum hardness (I was surprised when I found that the Roto RH punched at 73, and it is definitely a bleeder).

Edited on 11/26/2003 1:19 PM

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Re: Old school tourny - update
« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2003, 12:46:19 PM »
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What the hell is the SureD, and who made it? I'll look it up, if was deemed illegal, it will not be useable in this event. Every ball used has to be ABC approved and drilled and prepped accordingly.



The Columbia Sur D and its predecessor, the Shore D, were old (early-mid 70's, varying shades of caramel, infamous "Red Dot") polyester balls that were intentionally made very soft, due to the popularity and success of MEK / Toulene soakers.  At the time, there was no ABC hardness requirement, therefore these balls were legal.  Once the 72-hardness requirement was passed, many of these balls instantly became illegal, along with quite a few nomad balls occuring in the Yellow Dot, blue Roto Grip, and AMF Pro Classic lines.  This isn't to say that all Sur D and Shore D balls were and are below 72 hardness, though.  Some may actually be of legal hardness.  So unless you simply choose not to allow these balls, you can't categorically exclude these balls from your tournament due to hardness requirements.