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wussboy

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Wisconsin State Tournament
« on: February 01, 2012, 01:06:25 AM »
Just seeing if anyone bowled in the tournament yet.  Just looking for their experience and any advice.  Bowl in it this weekend.  Thanks for any advice.



 

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Re: Wisconsin State Tournament
« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2012, 11:37:51 PM »

I just watched some of my friends bowl this weekend. They said they stuck around 2nd arrow at Weston, carry was the biggest issue, but it was playable at least, little bit on the oily side. Mountain played dryer, but held up pretty well throughout there session, little jumpy at first, but seemed to settle down as the games went on. I wanted to go see because I bowl the weekend of March 31/April 1st. Hopefully people will post some more results and help me out. 


Also, Weston's approaches can be slick while Mountain tends to be sticky, those were issues for some of the bowlers.




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Re: Wisconsin State Tournament
« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2012, 11:53:21 PM »
Bowled middle of Feb.  597 team, 646 doubles 747 singles.  They are playable.

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Re: Wisconsin State Tournament
« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2012, 10:25:23 AM »
Bowled last weekend of January. 727 doubles, 580 singles, 770 team. Ditto what everyone else has said about the shot.

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Re: Wisconsin State Tournament
« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2012, 05:44:37 PM »
Looks like Riggs tore it up there. Got a chance to meet him and watch him bowl a couple of years ago. A nice person to talk to and outstanding bowler!



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Re: Wisconsin State Tournament
« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2012, 07:07:30 PM »
Going there this weekend to bowl! Any last words of advice out there?

I'm a lefty, about 325 revs, 15mph.

I'm thinkin' something lighter for Mountain, Storm Tropical Breeze or Motiv Recon Silver

For Weston I think my 4 choices will be my Motiv TZ3, Motiv Thrash, Storm Hy-Road and NEW Storm Vivid.


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Re: Wisconsin State Tournament
« Reply #21 on: April 04, 2012, 01:46:47 PM »
Chris, care to share what you found at State?



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Re: Wisconsin State Tournament
« Reply #22 on: April 04, 2012, 05:01:45 PM »
i bowled it this past weekend.

what i found was that @ mountain lanes you have to circle the fronts alittle bit in order to avoid early roll because of the wood surface. if done properly by the 2 teams, it plays fine. i used the new karma pearl for all 3 games. you need nothing really strong unless you are super speed dominant. even if you are, do not use to much surface. especially for team. ball down as opposed to moving in. that applies for all events. only move in if you have to.

minor events: the lanes hold much better due to synthetic surface. once again, nothing to strong needed here either.

as the lanes transistion, i had better luck just moving between 1-3 boards left on the approach(right handed) & looking my target closer. looking your target farther down the lane while moving in is did not work due to pattern length. for most of my 6 games in minor's in used a pin down 45 degree layout versa-max.@4000 abralon. then balled down to a 4" to pap versa-max box finish. my scores were 704 in team  629 doubles  701 singles.

good luck.



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Re: Wisconsin State Tournament
« Reply #23 on: April 04, 2012, 06:00:55 PM »
Thanks sport300,

 

You information was great. Congartulations on some very nice scores. I always appreciate it when others share their experience. I never want people to give information that they feel gives others an edge they didn't have, but just "in general" what they saw. I'm just an average league bowler and always find it nice to know if the lanes plays tight or hook. I think from that standpoint it's up to the bowler to pick the right ball and play the lanes correctly. Thanks!



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Re: Wisconsin State Tournament
« Reply #24 on: April 04, 2012, 06:06:10 PM »
your welcome!

the lanes aren't easy, but definately not tough. it's just a more finicky type pattern on ball choice & angles thru the fronts on how to get the proper match up to hopefully score higher. it can be easy to get a little lost when the lanes transistion.

good luck!



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Re: Wisconsin State Tournament
« Reply #25 on: April 05, 2012, 05:08:18 PM »
I think sport300 is right on about both places. I used a box finish Motiv Recon Silver at Mountain and played pretty straight. Shot 675 in Team, as one of only 2 lefty's on the pair, I did not move a lot, more of a speed change if anything. I thought the carry was pretty good, just don't burn up the middles too early.

 

Minors I did not fair as well, I've bowled many a tournament at Weston and I find that the Middle 16 lanes (21-36) just doesn't carry as well as the 1st 20 or lanes 37-60. And guess where we were put, 28-29! ugh......

 

Well, started with the OOB Vivid, but it was a little snappy, so went down to my Motiv Thrash (2000 + polish) and found some room, had a couple of higher 500's after struggling the 1st game of both sets. I can't complain about the shot, it was there. I just didn't hit it well.

On the plus side, my partner had a good doubles set and we sit a 1286 which is Low to Cash in the scratch catagory! lol

 

Have fun! and if you aren't going to use those Casino coupons, mail them to me!

 

 


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Re: Wisconsin State Tournament
« Reply #26 on: April 16, 2012, 05:03:37 PM »
Got back from State yesterday and thought I'd share my experience. First, I have to say I was probably not at my best while bowling on Friday and Saturday. I had bowled in our league playoffs on both Wednesday and Thursday nights which included fairly late nights of partying afterwards. Since I switched which arm I throw with, I admit if I bowl a lot and don't make sure I get the proper rest, I'm usually a little arm weary. I was this weekend and it did affect my ability to make good shots consistently. Now, on to the lanes. I thought that Mountain lanes head area had quite a bit of friction causing the ball to check up a little early. This coupled with not being able to get the ball around it on the outside because a lack of recovery from there made the shot fairly demanding. Playing inside without a strong rev type game was not possible for our group which is dominated by older guys whose games are more of the stroker type. There was a lot of oil inside and if you missed there you went through the beak as the ball wouldn't cross over and you had to play direct at your right side spares (I'm a lefty) or you could miss them on the left.

 

At Weston lanes the heads had far less friction up front but also had very little room for error. Like Mountain lanes, when missing your target inside, it did not cross and usually went through the nose. Didn't have to lead the ball as much though to hit my spares on the right side. The one thing I heard from guys we talked to at both places was that they thought it was tough conditions at both places. I thought is was more about accuracy and and if you made good shots you were around the pocket. The only telling thing about the scoring was the fact that shooting a low score in brackets did not prohibit you from advancing and even winning more than one bracket. I think that says a lot. I had never heard so much displeasure from bowlers about the lane conditions and I've been bowling state for over 30 years.

 

I told a buddy of mine that I thought this was the kind of shots that we bowl on every so often and when we get done, you think, "If I could bowl again I could hit it" and in reality given another shot, would probably not yield a big difference unless you are a much more accomplished bowler. Nationals, you expect a tough shot. At State, I think the best years for the masses have been when the condition requires you to make good shot but there is at least a little area outside to play in. The tournament attendance is dominated by average league bowlers looking to have a fun weekend including the bowling. I don't think our tournament was ever meant to separate the men from the boys.

 

I have a few very good bowlers who go with my squad and they usually average over 200 for the weekend. I don't think I had any do that this year and I watched them miss a lot of spares and throw some pretty low games. I average in the 190s and the last few years had shot over 1800 at state. This year I averaged 187. 

 

As far as both lanes are concerned, Mountain as everyone knows is old but the bar had nice bartenders and it seemed everyone had a good time there Friday night, well after we were done bowling. Weston is a very modern, gigantic place. We were done bowling at about 4:30 and didn't stay late but it didn't look like a place that would keep the bowlers there. Good bartenders but not much to going on. I thought Wausau in general is a nice city, but not the easiest to get around. We also did not find many places where the 35-55 year old crowd fit in. Some live music with a classic rock sound would have been great. Fond du Lac won't offer much more, I'm afraid.



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Re: Wisconsin State Tournament
« Reply #27 on: April 16, 2012, 07:20:01 PM »
I'm sorry your weekend wasn't better!

Did you grab those Casino coupons for me? haha

 

Every year I go to the State Tournament it seems like it fits my game or it doesn't. Milwaukee NEVER does, so I don't even bother to go there anymore.

Appleton was nice, Fond du Lac is OK at best and at Oshkosh it depends. I thought the conditions in Green Bay a couple of years ago were a joke!

 

I thought the shot this year was there, I had a friend this past weekend shoot 300 in Singles, but other struggled.

As a lefty, I found Mountain more forgiving and Weston was tight. But I wish I would have Polished my Storm Vivid before I bowled at Weston, I think I would have done better there. It's always after the fact though.


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Re: Wisconsin State Tournament
« Reply #28 on: April 16, 2012, 09:52:46 PM »
Where the heck were those coupons? I don't think I ever saw any. I had good weekends in Appleton/Oshkosh and Milwaukee so I can't say anything bad about those two and I hope I didn't come off bad about this weekend. If I was rested and ready I think I would have done much better on the demanding conditions we faced. The shot was tight but scoreable. I just don't think that it's a shot that fits what our state tournament is. I know of a guy who's team dominates year after year at state and he thought this was the toughest shot he's seen in many years.