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CharlieBrown

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Buddies Pro Shop
« on: January 17, 2005, 09:28:46 AM »
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Re: Buddies Pro Shop
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2005, 05:55:29 PM »
What I don't understand is how they get those kind of prices..
my house pro shop.. Intense Inferno = 230.00
Buddies.. 130.00.. after x-mas sale = 110.00..

Nemesis-- my house pro shop = 140.00 n up
Buddies = 87.00  

HOW DO THEY DO THIS
thats insane
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Re: Buddies Pro Shop
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2005, 06:22:57 AM »
You opened your EYES now open your MIND!
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Re: Buddies Pro Shop
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2005, 11:19:47 PM »
They aren't buying any product, they rarely if ever handle the product.  They buy from the same distributors that pro shops do.  The distributors drop shop the items for them.  Buddies operates on very low markup, but the web site is not their main/only function.  They also have their pro shop.
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Re: Buddies Pro Shop
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2005, 12:06:27 AM »
All is not as it seems.....

The price of a ball at Buddies does not include shipping or drilling. So if you buy the Inferno at Buddies, the real cost is as follows:

Ball     -- $130.00
Shipping -- $20.00
Drilling -- $40.00

Total    -- $190.00

If you shop around at local proshops, you should be able to get the ball for $200-$210. For the extra few bucks, the intangible benefits of buying local more than make up the price difference.
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Re: Buddies Pro Shop
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2005, 12:14:58 AM »
I'll tell you what, I've dealt with Buddies 3 times. they are good guys to deal with. I've peppered them with numerous e-mails with questions I've had and they always answer. The Ultimate Thumb slug they make is fantastic, it takes all the fine-tuning you have to do with regular slugs out of the equation. They're good at what they do!

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« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2005, 07:09:06 AM »
Steven that is a relatively good example but for some people there is a great cost difference if purchased online.  For instance see my example of what it would cost me:

Ball $130
Shipping $8
Drilling $30 (grips and slug included)

So I would have a top end ball from most companys for me personally at around $168.00 give or take a buck.  Now this of course is because shipping from buddies to me is only $8, I have a very good relationship with my driller I buy online but I buy from him as well, and we are good friends outside of the alley.  I admit that finding a good driller is the most important thing to do and is somtimes difficult and somtimes of you find a good driller they don't like you buying stuff online.  I have said it once and it still holds true but everyone should shop around for the best driller available to them, try and become friends with them or at least show them that you will give them loyalty when it comes to your business, try and develop some type of mutally beneficial relationship so that you can reduce your expenses and it still be beneficial to the proshop operator.  What I do is buy my balls online and from him also, but I buy all my accessories from him and shoes and etc. I also try and send new people to him as often as possible so in return he has no problem with me purchasing balls online he understands that he cannot match the price and he give me great drilling prices.  Some proshop guys are just a-holes especially the ones that charge more for drilling balls purchased online, yes they have to make money thats their business but we also as a consumer are trying to save our money and they should understand that as well.  If all things are done right we should be able to save money and they should be able to make their money also without a giant price difference.
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Re: Buddies Pro Shop
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2005, 07:46:44 AM »
JP .. well said!
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Re: Buddies Pro Shop
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2005, 08:02:15 AM »
If a pro shop charges more than $30 to drill a blank ball, thats to much..

When are pro shops going to realize that people are going to buy the eqiupment where they can get it the cheapest and thats always going to be online. I have bought over 50 balls online the past 18 months and my pro shop guy has drilled them all so he has made a decent amount of money off me and is happy to drill internet balls. There is another pro shop in my area that gives people a hard time when they bring in internet balls and he is almost out of business because of his attitude about that..
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Re: Buddies Pro Shop
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2005, 08:09:27 AM »
Yea, I know of some pro shops like that. The one in my main alley (till I leave anyways) charges $60 for a reactive ball to be drilled, plus $30 for a slug, and like $10 for grips. If you buy from him he drills free, but thats because he sells low end balls like power grooves for over $130-$140!!! I buy online, and go to a pro shop about 40 minutes away. I am with JP here, I do save a lot buying online.

Ball-$130
Shipping-$10 or so
Drilling-$18 w/ slug

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Re: Buddies Pro Shop
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2005, 08:13:08 AM »
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A very happy oversea customer!


I got two top of the range Lane_1 balls, Dirty Bomb and Uranium Pearl; even including the expansive airmail shipping and drilling cost, it's still much cheaper than buying from a proshop in U.K.

A Dirty Bomb can easily cost you over US$375 here!

I bought a Zone Classic and a Dyno-Thane Thing from a proshop here in London a few weeks ago, they cost me £385, that's US$685!!!!!!

The only reason I still sometimes purchase from proshop, is that the driller is the best, and he charges a fair price drilling internet ball.
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« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2005, 08:51:18 AM »
You can usually buy a ball on the Internet for less than your local proshop charges. I'm not arguing that point. All I'm suggesting is that the difference is not a great as many here suggest.

But the up front price for a ball and drilling is really not what's most important. If that's all I cared about, I'd buy everything through ebay auctions and then take the balls to the local Kmart guy for a $10 drill.

Most of us are here at Ballreviews because we love the game and want to be the best that we can possibly be. To get there, you need a partner who will do more that just punch holes for the lowest possible price. For better or worse, that generally means developing a good relationship with a local driller. Buying most services (ball and drilling) from him conveys a message that you're worth spending extra time with. That's just the way the world works.

A GOOD local driller will help you fine tune span, pitches, layouts, cover, and core to best optimize your game. And he'll recommend changes over time as you continue to evolve into a better bowler. These are things you can't get from the Internet.

And because you're getting personal attention, you're less likely to make mistakes in purchases. Joe Falco takes pride in his Internet purchasing strategy, but he's made mistakes because he doesn't have a qualified professional to rely on. So who's saving money?

I guess that if you have set spans and pitches you never change from, don't care about advice and informal tips/lessons, and just want to save a buck above all else, the Internet is the place to do business. It all comes down to what you're goals are.
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Re: Buddies Pro Shop
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2005, 09:01:58 AM »
Steven I am sure Joe will chime back in to defend himself but he does rely on a reputable professional to drill his stuff.  I think its Mike Cimba if I remember correctly.
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Re: Buddies Pro Shop
« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2005, 09:50:07 AM »
There are some people who insist that if you don't do it MY WAY you are wrong! My feeling is you do what you think is best!

I don't need the ball driller to CARESS me .. I want to pay him for drilling a ball. If I have to have a bowling ball adjusted after it's drilled (for other then a condition that has happened to my physical being) I don't want to use that driller again. I want to have a ball drilled and I don't want the DRILLER to see MY BALL again.

I can see where bowlers COULD BE confused if they are constantly changing their grip. It seems to me that would be a good gimmick for a SHOP .. why don't we try this .. or that .. or maybe this! For a NEW BOWLER this would be acceptable .. for someone bowling 3 years or more (and averaging 200+) this should not be a CONSTANT thing!

My point is that a driller .. should be doing a good job .. otherwise GO SOMEPLACE ELSE .. and you don't have to build a thing up with your DRILLER .. HE has to build this thing up with you! OVERPRICING doesn't do it for me!

I DON'T BUY BUILDING A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THE DRILLER .. UNLESS HE IS DOING HIS BEST FOR ME IN SERVICE AND PRICE .. I'LL LOOK ELSE WHERE! His job is service!  

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Re: Buddies Pro Shop
« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2005, 10:01:22 AM »
Joe

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I want to have a ball drilled and I don't want the DRILLER to see MY BALL again.

I can see where bowlers COULD BE confused if they are constantly changing their grip. It seems to me that would be a good gimmick for a SHOP .. why don't we try this .. or that .. or maybe this! For a NEW BOWLER this would be acceptable .. for someone bowling 3 years or more (and averaging 200+) this should not be a CONSTANT thing!



Totally agree, my driller is almost 2 hours away from my home, why am I willing to travel that far?  Because he's the best, and he doesn't overcharge.

More importantly, he gets it right the first time.
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