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Brickguy221

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On Line Shops Drilling Balls
« on: May 29, 2012, 10:28:47 AM »
Has anyone ever ordered balls from Buddies Pro Shop and had Buddies drill it for them before shipping the ball?

If so, how was their drilling accuracy in terms of span and pitches?
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Re: On Line Shops Drilling Balls
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2012, 11:43:47 AM »
I can't speak for other online sites, but as far as Buddies goes they are spot on in all aspects. 
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Re: On Line Shops Drilling Balls
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2012, 12:45:56 PM »
I just received a hell raiser revenge from them on Friday, and bowled in a tournament Saturday. The drilling was PERFECT! I would let them do it again, WITH OUT A DOUBT. I hope this helps, the don
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Re: On Line Shops Drilling Balls
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2012, 05:17:23 AM »
Quote from: Brickguy221 on May 29, 2012, 10:28:47 AM
Has anyone ever ordered balls from Buddies Pro Shop and had Buddies drill it for them before shipping the ball?

If so, how was their drilling accuracy in terms of span and pitches?

I have not done it myself, but I have seen many posts complimenting Buddies on drilling their balls correctly.
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Re: On Line Shops Drilling Balls
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2012, 07:39:46 AM »
I've had Chris drill a couple balls for me at Buddies.  Both times, they have been spot on.  They do great work.  Nothing like having a new ball show up in the mail and it actually fits!
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Re: On Line Shops Drilling Balls
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2012, 09:18:55 AM »
I had 6 balls drilled by Buddies and every single one of them was drilled exactly the same as far as span and pitch. Buddies has been spot on and now I will only have Buddies drill my stuff. I am a BIG fan of Buddies when it comes to drilling.
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Re: On Line Shops Drilling Balls
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2012, 11:37:37 AM »
Thanks to all that replied. The only balls I have ever had drilled on line were drilled by Doug Sterner whom did a super accurate job with the span and pitches and one ball drilled by Carl Herd which was off 1/16 on span.

My pro shop closed at the end of 2011, so I am looking at my options of trying Buddies or going to another shop in my area.
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Re: On Line Shops Drilling Balls
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2012, 01:00:34 PM »
If you have a reputable Pro Shop in your local area, I would use them. Online Pro Shops are driving the local Pro Shops out of business and before long, there will be very few local ones. Thus the reason why the majority of ball companies are setting the lower ceiling that a ball can be sold for. If your local Pro Shop has a bad reputation and can't determine the difference between a 3/4 roller and full roller or has no idea on finding axis point for example then yes, by all means utilize a reputable online shop.
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Re: On Line Shops Drilling Balls
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2012, 05:55:23 PM »
Quote from: Perfect Approach Pro Shop on May 30, 2012, 01:00:34 PM
If you have a reputable Pro Shop in your local area, I would use them. Online Pro Shops are driving the local Pro Shops out of business and before long, there will be very few local ones. Thus the reason why the majority of ball companies are setting the lower ceiling that a ball can be sold for. If your local Pro Shop has a bad reputation and can't determine the difference between a 3/4 roller and full roller or has no idea on finding axis point for example then yes, by all means utilize a reputable online shop.

100% in agreement
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Re: On Line Shops Drilling Balls
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2012, 08:36:19 PM »
You probably can find a local reputable pro shop.  However, from my research in my local area in a 30 mile radius, you will be paying an arm and a leg for the ball including grips as they are passing along their loss of income from online pro shops to their customers.  With that being said, people are driven by their local shops to go online.  Plus online shops that I am aware of are regular pro shops too.  Most online shops will not drill a ball without having the customer send another ball to them to copy specs or if they have their actual specs will check with the customer to see how current the information is with their PAP to make sure they can provide the best possible service. I have used a local shop for over 20 years.  However, when my shop closed for about 5 months I searched and searched to find a shop I would be comfortable with.  I found only 1 but passed on them.  I then looked online.  I had purchased a lot of blank equipment from Tekneek and decided to have a ball drilled by him.  I couldn't be happier with the service and his personability.  He also had the same prices for drilling with grips as my local shop that I went to did.  I know this can be debated over and over as someone will always have an opinion on this subject.  So, the online shop is driving the prices of the local shops higher but then the local shops are losing as well to as they don't see a lot of business other than their loyals from past because of this.  From the looks of it, both are killing each other in some way.
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Re: On Line Shops Drilling Balls
« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2012, 09:24:43 PM »
Track I disagree....

Many local shops cost more because they are offering something you can't get online....in person expertise about your local conditions....the ability to watch you throw balls live.

You get what you pay for....sure the online guys can hit lines....in all honesty a monkey can do that....but how well can someone really know your game from another state?

If the online shops were doing the same job....they wouldn't be as cheap.  I'm not bashing them...I know those guys are extremely good and knowledgable...but they are not paying for the same time with you that someone in person would spend.
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Re: On Line Shops Drilling Balls
« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2012, 09:28:01 AM »
Russell-

  As I stated, this can be debated over and over as everyone has their opinion.  If you know all of your specs and not just your span, you would be able to get as close to the same service than going with your local shop.  Watching someone live for a few shots is going to help the pro shop operator suggest what as well as think they know your game from that? Most people already know what ball they are looking for for the conditions they will encounter.  Most online shops that I know of will contact you, discuss what you are looking for, make suggestions for drilling and also may suggest something different based on this.  Local conditions?  with the way centers are now, the 'local condition' can be different on a daily basis.  If the online shops were doing the same job they wouldn't be so cheap?  Again,         just because their prices are less doesn't mean they aren't doing the same job.     

I know you are not bashing them at all.  And it does sound like I am bashing local pro shops.  I can accept that mainly because of 2 things.  Cost & Warranty.  If I get a ball directly from a manufacturer, I go to a local shop, you are looking between $75-$95 in drilling a blank ball with grips.  Basically, this forces you into buying the ball directly from the pro shop because after you look at the cost of drilling and the cost of the ball from the manufacturer, you will break even or pay more depending on the ball.  What I mean by this is if I buy a Vivid, the cost will be about the same.  It may save me $5.  If I buy a Frantic, I would be paying more.   If you pay an arm and a leg for drilling and say you have a cracking issue(around the drilling), the shops will tell you sorry, we can't help you.  you didn't buy the ball from us.  Or, we can plug it for you and charge you to fix it.   
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Brickguy221

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Re: On Line Shops Drilling Balls
« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2012, 04:38:05 PM »
Thanks to all that replied to my post.

Your input is greatly appreciated. ... Again, many thanks.
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Re: On Line Shops Drilling Balls
« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2012, 03:41:00 PM »
Track... we sell most HP models for $200...Fitted and drilled...

So please tell me exactly HOW this is ripping people off...

Most online prices for HP balls are about $159-$164...UNDRILLED...

I think you are way off base and way out of line with your B.S. about
pro shops overcharging people...

Wild guess...You probably work for an online site...

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Re: On Line Shops Drilling Balls
« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2012, 03:42:15 PM »
Quote from: Track_Fanatic on June 02, 2012, 09:28:01 AM
Russell-

  As I stated, this can be debated over and over as everyone has their opinion.  If you know all of your specs and not just your span, you would be able to get as close to the same service than going with your local shop.I disagree>>>holes always need to be adjusted after drilling...  Watching someone live for a few shots is going to help the pro shop operator suggest what as well as think they know your game from that? Most people already know what ball they are looking for for the conditions they will encounter.  Most online shops that I know of will contact you, discuss what you are looking for, make suggestions for drilling and also may suggest something different based on this.  Local conditions?  with the way centers are now, the 'local condition' can be different on a daily basis.  If the online shops were doing the same job they wouldn't be so cheap?  Again,         just because their prices are less doesn't mean they aren't doing the same job.     

I know you are not bashing them at all.  And it does sound like I am bashing local pro shops.  I can accept that mainly because of 2 things.  Cost & Warranty.  If I get a ball directly from a manufacturer, I go to a local shop, you are looking between $75-$95 in drilling a blank ball with grips. <<<< THIS IS WAY OUT OF LINE...MORE LIKE $60.00 Basically, this forces you into buying the ball directly from the pro shop because after you look at the cost of drilling and the cost of the ball from the manufacturer, you will break even or pay more depending on the ball.  What I mean by this is if I buy a Vivid, the cost will be about the same.  It may save me $5.  If I buy a Frantic, I would be paying more.   If you pay an arm and a leg for drilling and say you have a cracking issue(around the drilling), the shops will tell you sorry, we can't help you.  you didn't buy the ball from us.  Or, we can plug it for you and charge you to fix it.   
you didn't,  so return it from where you bought it...
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