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Bar5003

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300 Global
« on: April 05, 2007, 03:30:00 PM »
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Use2begood

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Re: 300 Global
« Reply #121 on: August 13, 2007, 10:05:13 AM »
Just the shoes will be registered or will the balls be registered as well?
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Re: 300 Global
« Reply #122 on: August 13, 2007, 10:47:44 AM »
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Just the shoes will be registered or will the balls be registered as well?


Hardly seems worth registering when you only have one or two balls out.  And no national staff, too.  But there are a lot of guys who use the shoes.

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Re: 300 Global
« Reply #123 on: August 15, 2007, 11:51:19 AM »
Update: Breaks are shipping to customers today.
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Re: 300 Global
« Reply #124 on: August 17, 2007, 11:38:05 PM »
have three left all 15's without owners.
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Bar5003

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Re: 300 Global
« Reply #125 on: August 17, 2007, 11:41:35 PM »
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Re: 300 Global
« Reply #126 on: August 19, 2007, 11:51:57 AM »
Have a question for Phil and other followers of his.  I remember just a year or so ago that Phil wasnt a big fan of asymmetric cores and he wouldnt release them unless he could get it how he felt it should be.  That's where the Centrifugal Mass came from.  Since then there have been the Threshold asymmetrical and now the Break asymm as well.  Why the big change from symmetrical to asymmetrical all of a sudden?  Dont get me wrong, I loved the centifugal mass and wanted the threshold and now the break but can't due to money issues.  I'm just curious why the change away from what had become the norm.
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Re: 300 Global
« Reply #127 on: August 20, 2007, 06:22:09 AM »
I began this as an answer to a question then took off on a general consideration.

I don't think the move to include asymmetrical core shapes was sudden.  If anything it was a slow methodical move.  Production is based on demand and demand is based on perceived value.  Strong asyms have a high market value.  Every producer of balls wants to be the worlds largest seller.  You can't fill a demand with products you don't have.

I could be wrong but, I think the Centrifugal Mass was Phils' first asym shape.  And the CM was a really well received first entry into this market.
 
I am thinking that asym design is not new because tinkering with flip blocks, core densities, as well setting the core off center and at various degrees of angle is a form of asym design.  The basic light bulb shape is a perfect example of the root of asym design because so much as been done with it. How  the core weight distributed in the ball defines asym design.

We are seeing all of the companies experiment with core shape, and the way core shape alone influences hook shape and roll. Does this make sense...  Single density cores are easier to produce, and it is easier to produce a ball that has a desirable  alignment of the pin, CG, and MB, if a single core material is used?
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Re: 300 Global
« Reply #128 on: August 20, 2007, 09:18:39 AM »
Thank for the response "onlybowling"
Several things have happened since the advent of asym. balls. The epiphany came when we study the influence of the spin spot (called Mb by marketers). We found that a mid diff of 0 (sym.) and a mid diff of .010-.015 performed differently but mid  diffs greater than .015 had no added influence. What we did notice was that the shape of the core not the values of the mid diff influenced the motion. So in essence its the chicken or the egg theory. Is it the numbers or is the shape the answer and the numbers simply a by-product. We, (I) have always been a proponent of geometry as all of you know. The geometric shape of the core has the greatest influence on ball performance (next to friction ) that is. So I have started to design cores based on shape not numbers. What ever numbers we get from the shape are the numbers we will use, unless of course they are out of USBC spec.
Ironically we can duplicate all the numbers of one shape in another ball by changing densities or flip blocks, but found that they do not roll the same, so shape is the culprit here not the rg's diff's and strength of mid diff.

This is simply my findings and now applications.

wulfpackbwlr

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Re: 300 Global
« Reply #129 on: August 20, 2007, 09:35:49 AM »
Thank you both for the replies.  Was just out of my own curiosity.  I've had a lot of success with both types of cores.  Was just wanting what was in your head. :-)  thanks for the input.

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