Author Topic: MOTIV (Read 11470 times)

scotts33 · « **on:** December 14, 2008, 09:41:14 PM »

I am going to get a new MOTIV ball but not sure if it will be the TX-1 or SX-1. Depends on what they send to my driller. He bought a case and should see them mid to end of this week.

So, my question is copied from charlest's post in mainzer's GX-1 topic. I and many others I believe would like to know.

I am curious about its traits:

What type of ball is it?
What amount of oil does it handle?
What type of ball reaction does it have with a "normal" or average drilling?
How does it take to surface changes?
Does it stay flippy if polished?
Does it become arc-like if sanded or does it stay flippy?
How reliable is the coverstock?
Does it take to rejuvenation"
How fast does it absorb oil?
Does it still hook strongly if it doesn't absorb oil?
How flexible is the core?
Is it low RG or high RG?
How well does the cover and the core match up?
Does it match up for high rev bowlers OR low rev bowlers?
etc.

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Scott

ScottHewitt · « **Reply #16 on:** December 22, 2008, 03:45:35 PM »

The release of the MOTIV GX1 is actually being delayed and the new release date is TBD. The ball is already USBC approved, but we are getting more orders for TX1 and SX1 balls than we anticipated (a good problem to have). Therefore, rather than begin production on another new release, we are focusing on boosting production for the MOTIV TX1 and SX1.

We will be holding off on releasing any exact specs for the GX1 until we have a specific release date in mind.

Scott Hewitt
Tech-Line Products (MOTIV)
http://www.motivbowling.com/

scotts33 · « **Reply #17 on:** December 22, 2008, 10:01:43 PM »

quote:
The ball is already USBC approved, but we are getting more orders for TX1 and SX1 balls than we anticipated (a good problem to have).

Thanks for posting Scott! Why do the Motiv balls TX-1 and SX-1 not show up on approved USBC lists as of today 12/22?

Can you answer these questions? BTW...drilled up a SX-1 ball before Mon. league 4" pin lil above ring to right cg set in about 90 deg drilling no X hole....reminded me of rolling Big B stuff. 268 game and put it away as inside burned out. Great ball....I'll purchase a TX-1. Can you tell us the difference betqween the TX-1 and SX-1? Thanks!

ALSO:
I am curious about its traits:

What type of ball is it?
What amount of oil does it handle?
What type of ball reaction does it have with a "normal" or average drilling?
How does it take to surface changes?
Does it stay flippy if polished?
Does it become arc-like if sanded or does it stay flippy?
How reliable is the coverstock?
Does it take to rejuvenation"
How fast does it absorb oil?
Does it still hook strongly if it doesn't absorb oil?
How flexible is the core?
Is it low RG or high RG?
How well does the cover and the core match up?
Does it match up for high rev bowlers OR low rev bowlers?
etc.

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Scott

ScottHewitt · « **Reply #18 on:** December 24, 2008, 08:27:58 AM »

I received an email from the USBC a couple of weeks back stating that they were a little behind on updating the approved list. It should be coming soon.

ScottHewitt · « **Reply #19 on:** December 24, 2008, 08:44:41 AM »

Sorry, I forgot to respond to the second part of your post. The cover on the TX1 and SX1 are the same, but they come out of the box with a different finish. Therefore, the real difference between the 2 balls is the core design. They have 2 completely different reactions.

To really simply the difference, the TX1 has a smooth moderate arc and the SX1 has a smooth wider arc. Also, with the lower RG on the SX1, it is easier to rev up wants to turn earlier. I think bowlers with a high rev rate and high ball speed will really like the results of the SX1 with an aggressive finish. On heavier oil I'd recommend a 1000 sanded finish - NO polish. The box finish on the SX1 is really better for medium oil. On the other hand, the TX1 "hits like a truck" according to several bowlers. Many have commented that it is the hardest hitting ball they've ever used.

scotts33 · « **Reply #20 on:** December 24, 2008, 09:29:23 AM »

Thanks Scott!

I am very impressed with the SX1 which I had drilled on Monday afternoon and used both Mon and Tues nights in league. I am getting a TX1 drilled Fri I am that impressed with Motiv.

Can you tell us anything about the GX1? Would like to know where it might fit with both the SX1 and TX1.
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Scott

Edited on 12/24/2008 10:31 AM

ScottHewitt · « **Reply #21 on:** December 24, 2008, 11:33:02 AM »

That's great to hear! It sounds like you found the finish that works for you. Just curious, what finish are you using now on your SX1?

The GX1 is designed to be right in between the TX1 and SX1 in terms of reaction (different core design). The coverstock, again, is the same, but it will be what we call metallic blue (blue pearl). Out of the box, the GX1 finish will be a 4000 polish for lighter oil. Keep in mind, the release date on this ball is yet to be determined. It could be Feb and it could be BowlExpo.

Merry Christmas!
Scott Hewitt
Tech-Line Products (MOTIV)
http://www.motivbowling.com/

scotts33 · « **Reply #22 on:** December 24, 2008, 11:53:36 AM »

quote:
That's great to hear! It sounds like you found the finish that works for you. Just curious, what finish are you using now on your SX1?

Scott,

SX1 I left it OOB which I prefer to do to see how the ball was designed to do. I drilled it with my drillers suggestion as he also drilled one much the same. Stats. are in my profile. 4" pin to PAP pin slightly up and next to ring. CG kicked in slightly so it winds up for me and my PAP a 4" x 4". I use Valentino's Remedy cleaner (can be used during USBC competition) a few times during bowling keeps the lane shine off and more OOB. I am impressed with the covers used on your balls.

Works great on a medium to slightly more than medium THS on 5 yr old Bruns Anvilane 2nd Generation.

I could see on more oil using a 1000ab surface.

Thanks again for the info.
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Scott

Whiskey 1966 · « **Reply #23 on:** December 28, 2008, 02:07:24 PM »

I know the GX1 is going to be metallic blue and silver, I am interested on how things go for you guys. Good luck! Your assistant Jamie Ireland has been real professional and courteous in her emails to me!

cros843 · « **Reply #24 on:** December 28, 2008, 11:13:28 PM »

scott,drilled up a tx on friday and shot a 278 the 2nd gm w/ it(finished w/ the last 10. been a long time since i've had so many people ask, what is that your bowling with? the ball gets a nice heavy preditable roll on the back end and the big logos look pretty cool while it's doing it. will be ordering a case monday. steve cross,baton rouge

scotts33 · « **Reply #25 on:** December 29, 2008, 01:31:36 AM »

Good to hear Steve!
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Scott

scotts33 · « **Reply #26 on:** December 29, 2008, 02:33:41 AM »

Just an FYI for those interested in these questions.

I asked in an e-mail "Where can I buy Power GelÂ® Clean, Power GelÂ® Scuff, and Power GelÂ® Polish? When will you be coming out with bags?"
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Response from Jeanne. "It will probably be February before we are ready to ship anything on the cleaners. We will be doing accessories but I do not know exactly what or when they will be available."

Thanks for asking!

Jeanne Peterman
Customer Sales & Service
Motiv Bowling by Tech-Line

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Scott

ScottHewitt · « **Reply #27 on:** December 29, 2008, 06:57:57 AM »

Nice game Steve! Looks like you've been MOTIVated!

Whiskey 1966 - Thank you for the compliment on Jamie's professional customer service. I'll pass those comments on to her.

Have a Happy New Year!

Scott Hewitt
Tech-Line Products (MOTIV)
http://www.motivbowling.com/

lunk_wsu · « **Reply #28 on:** January 23, 2009, 10:51:56 AM »

It took me a little longer to get the ball drilled than I had originally stated, and it looks like there has been a number of replies since then. I drilled mine with 3 3/8 pin, and static center kicked out. I've tried it with the OOB finish, at 1000 abralon, and now 1000 abralon with Luster King polish. It definitely gives me a better reaction with polish on the ball, than without. Even though I haven't been able to get the results I'd like to see, this ball hits a ton. I'd like to try the TX-1 and see what kind of results I get from it. I've also heard of one guy taking 500 abralon to the ball, and then using a polish on the ball, and he seems to have quite a bit of room on THS, and great carry. If you're looking for something that's going to hit hard and carry, look no further.

Eric
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scotts33 · « **Reply #29 on:** January 23, 2009, 11:25:00 AM »

I wouldn't use a Luster King on the ball. Plugs the cover with a waxy polish. I'd use a non abrasive polish <ie. Legends or Valentino's Snake Oil>

I've seen one other SX1 plus mine. I wouldn't layout the ball weaker. Strong pin to PAP and stacked is fine to use for most average stroker/tweener types. Has a urethane look or roll...will not snap off the dry. Easy ball to read. I've found I can loft/hit it harder more like the old urethane way of hitting the ball and carry improves.

TX1 will be more angular in the backend.
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Scott

scotts33 · « **Reply #30 on:** January 26, 2009, 10:43:40 PM »

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What happened to the GX1 they were supposed to put our in January?

I think it was said maybe later or during Bowl Expo.

In either case I am loving SX1 and TX1. Use SX1 to open up sets ion the fresh and TX1 moving in.

From my perspective do NOT drill these balls weak. Urethane roll especially the SX1....if you want a nice even moving urethane look....SX1 is the ball. SX1 I have at 4000ab and it works great..leave it in the oil moving out to dry and great power in the pocket. Nice tighter line. TX1 inside of that where I left off with SX1.....beautiful length and movement more resin look but still not a huge hooker. Left mine is OOB with a lil lane shine. This is on a medium 41" THS 5 yr. old Bruns Anvilane. I sure can't complain.

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Scott

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