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Mushtare going pro
« on: December 01, 2008, 05:20:17 AM »
http://pba.com/schedule/tourdetails.asp?ID=1575&Type=0

Can he add PBA Rookie of the year to his credits?

 

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Re: Mushtare going pro
« Reply #61 on: December 03, 2008, 12:19:59 PM »
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So, what are the odds for 5 of them?
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129,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 to 1
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Re: Mushtare going pro
« Reply #62 on: December 03, 2008, 12:35:19 PM »
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So, what are the odds for 5 of them?
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129,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 to 1
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129,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 ^5 to 1 is closer to the truth.

that's to the fifth power for those that didn't understand the ^ sign.
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Re: Mushtare going pro
« Reply #63 on: December 03, 2008, 01:08:14 PM »
that wouldn't even make the cut on the amatuer level Mushtare is a fraud and a joke back when jog was in ft lauderdale chris schlemmer and chris johnson and i watched him throw a few shots i was sick to my stomach schlemmer said what a joke and chris didn't know what to say
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Re: Mushtare going pro
« Reply #64 on: December 03, 2008, 02:09:11 PM »
Wll....I have already put my comment on another page.

I'm shocked at how low the scores were on this suppossedly easy pattern by all the bowlers!

Only 7 bowlers over 210!

Tim Mack 198, Rudk Kasimakis 180, Mushtare 179.

I don't know what this has to do with high scoring on league conditions....I hear Rudy can wipe em out if he comes to your house and Tim Mack too!

I have put the comments in another post of a well known coach who thinks Robby is very capable of extreme high scores on league conditions and predicted success on Shark(which happened).

He also indicated he believed Robby would struggle on all other patterns of the PBA.  I am not an expert on these patterns but to this coach it is no surprise.

He believes with the right training Robby could improve dramatically on these patterns.  However he also believed that after Robby had his positive Regional experience on the Shark, that Robby would NOT get the help he needed to advance in his craft until he had a rough time like this.

I feel bad for him and all the other PBA aspirants who could not average over 200 on this "so called" easy shot....

BUT...Maybe it will help him....in the long run

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« Reply #65 on: December 03, 2008, 02:15:49 PM »
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I know it's not the REAL Lil Robbie, but I figure I might as well entertain him a bit. I think he will average 175 with one game over 200.




Nice call Rev_O. Almost pegged it on the nose! 179 with 1 (220)

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« Reply #66 on: December 03, 2008, 02:16:56 PM »
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Wll....I have already put my comment on another page.

I'm shocked at how low the scores were on this suppossedly easy pattern by all the bowlers!

Only 7 bowlers over 210!

Tim Mack 198, Rudk Kasimakis 180, Mushtare 179.

I don't know what this has to do with high scoring on league conditions....I hear Rudy can wipe em out if he comes to your house and Tim Mack too!

I have put the comments in another post of a well known coach who thinks Robby is very capable of extreme high scores on league conditions and predicted success on Shark(which happened).

He also indicated he believed Robby would struggle on all other patterns of the PBA.  I am not an expert on these patterns but to this coach it is no surprise.

He believes with the right training Robby could improve dramatically on these patterns.  However he also believed that after Robby had his positive Regional experience on the Shark, that Robby would NOT get the help he needed to advance in his craft until he had a rough time like this.

I feel bad for him and all the other PBA aspirants who could not average over 200 on this "so called" easy shot....

BUT...Maybe it will help him....in the long run

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Luckylefty
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If you knew anything about bowling, you'd have these two pieces of information filed away:

A). For the millionth time, the PBA has tweaked all named patterns, and as a result, Cheetah has turned into one of the hardest patterns on tour. The bump that used to be at the gutter is no longer there, and the shot tends to play deep rather than at the twig.

B). Robby Perfecto is a house rat and is a disgrace to the game. The fact that you're comparing him to Tim Mack and Rudy Kasimakis proves how out of touch with reality you are with respect to this kid's skills. When he comes close to accomplishing what either of those two guys have, then I guess your point is valid. And spare us some lousy golf analogy, like how Robby's struggles this week are comparable to Arnold Palmer's struggles at the 1652 U.S. Open even though Arnie won 17,729 majors in his lifetime and could mop up anyone.
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Re: Mushtare going pro
« Reply #67 on: December 03, 2008, 04:43:52 PM »
He too is a nobody. If my daddy owned my bowling center, i too could pre-bowl on a fixed lane condition until I shot a few 900s. He is a house bowler thats used to an easy shot. He didnt do anything until the last game when the lanes dried up to what he was used to at his home center. He showed that he cant adjust to anything but his own house conditions. He reminds me of my cousin. my cousin has a 230 something average here in town and every praises him for it. He went out to bowl the TQR twice and averaged 181 both times!! Why? because like Robbie, he just couldnt adjust to the lanes conditions, because he was so used to his walled up house shot.





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Explain this "right"...please

Why is it when you bowled your PBA TQR's there was not a page of you on PBA.com like he has ?

Oh ya, your not important...thats why..lol
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Re: Mushtare going pro
« Reply #68 on: December 03, 2008, 04:53:39 PM »
Lucky Lefty why do you defend this kid?

You are as much of an idiot as he is.

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« Reply #69 on: December 03, 2008, 11:04:37 PM »
IF I remember right....the 1/129XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX figure came from the
"ESPN outside" the lines special on Mushtare ....

I believe that the statistic was based on the AVERAGE bowler shooting two 900s.
I believe the assumptions were based on the total number of 900s bowled to that point divided by all of the sanctioned bowling games ever bowled by all members. Over the what...80( year history of sanctioned bowling?

Instead of getting too complicated for some people out here.

I think we could all agree that the chances of a woman 125 average bowler shooting a 800 are way less than the chances of a 220 average bowler to shoot an 800.  

Following that logic we could also agree that the theoretical chances of a bowler in a hot phase averaging over a 10 game block over 250 are higher to shoot an  850 than another guy in the same block averaging 210.

That is not hard is it?

Therefore included in the number above is a lot of people who probably almost could never never never never ever even shoot an 800.  170 average men and below and also 170 average woman and below.  800 anytime soon.  Let me know....never happen.

Now to calculate the chance of a super high series for a particular individual we can easily say someone averaging over 250 like 10 strikes a game has a much higher chance to throw a 900 than a guy averaging 7 strikes a game and 210 average.

All the time I hear righties say....."Man if only I didn't have to bowl in all this cross traffic like you get that sweet china!".  I think a guy in a hot phase in league averaging over 240 in league with cross traffic would think man....if I just prebowl by myself(no crosstraffic) or with 1 friend I bet I could come a lot closer to 900(if in a groove) than bowling in cross traffic.

I still say.....

Here is a more UNLIKELY  statistical event for a righty than bowling two 900s....yet it happened"


An 899, and 879 bowled within 10 days in regular league by a RIGHTY with cross traffic.  I actually believe the adjustments required to do this feat by Eric George is absolutely phenomenal.

Here is another example of what is possible.  Please read Ken Simards comments in this article.  This on a pattern much harder than Robert Mushtare's home house with NO cross traffic(ie pre bowl!).

"I must be the world's worst bowler with 9 strikes"


AND this on a pattern much tougher than Robert Mushtare's prebowl 900s!  Pressure, cross traffic, lane management!   Wow no wonder so many people are so impressed with Ken Simard!  (I've never seen him throw!).

My point is....I saw a guy in league once start 3 straight series with 9 in a row for every game!  Then I believe tighten up!  900 was possible every set if he just kept throwing the same....but he added an Xtra to the equation....he tightened up!  

To me....Robert Mushtare is a top hat killer (and I guess good on shark).  But bowling multiple super series on UNBLEMISHED CHINA....possible.  Above even on BLEMISHED china(Eric George) and Blemished PBA (Ken Simard)(tough shots) bowlers are ALMOST doing it!

Righties always wanted unblemished china so they could have a chance at super series.  They had it for awhile and now they've made sure they don't have it anymore.  Now only the much less populous lefty population continue the chance to have unblemished china.  But there are so few of them in comparison to the number of righties.

Robert Mushtare to me has only proven to me that he is a top hat killer(and I love to watch guys do that).  A best at this point a 1 1/2 to 2 (shark)trick pony.  Wonderful I say.  Will he ever be a great PBA bowler?  No idea!

REgards,

Luckylefty
PS I still say a very important factor in the Robert Mushtare accomplishments is the unblemished (as a result of NO cross traffic) china aspect which no longer exists for righties in the pursuit of super series. ie...the prebow lack of cross traffic dramatically raises the odds for a righty to shoot a higher series versus his regular league.





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Re: Mushtare going pro
« Reply #70 on: December 03, 2008, 11:59:04 PM »
5 900s? Fantasyland.

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« Reply #71 on: December 04, 2008, 12:47:20 AM »
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New Mr.900 Poster...Pre-Orders!

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« Reply #72 on: December 04, 2008, 12:50:55 AM »
Theres only 1 Mr 900

http://www.bowlingindex.com/900inc/jeremyfront3.jpg
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« Reply #73 on: December 04, 2008, 01:09:07 AM »
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Theres only 1 Mr 900

http://www.bowlingindex.com/900inc/jeremyfront3.jpg
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You're right...and here he is:

http://www.bowl.com/SharedImages/allison2.jpg

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Re: Mushtare going pro
« Reply #74 on: December 04, 2008, 03:14:29 AM »
Is he the one that the PBA tellecast previewed not too long ago? They have a billboard that still has the info outside the lanes or something?


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http://www.bowlingindex.com/900inc/jeremyfront3.jpg
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You're right...and here he is:

http://www.bowl.com/SharedImages/allison2.jpg

Glenn '900' Allison
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Robb's Pro Shops: Bakersfield, California

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