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joeyyant

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WBT scoring. Potential spoilers I guess
« on: February 21, 2016, 02:13:18 PM »
To anyone watching this show now why is the scoring different? I don't understand bowling originally is not that hard to score. Why do they feel the need to change it? Just curious on what people think.

 

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Re: WBT scoring. Potential spoilers I guess
« Reply #31 on: February 22, 2016, 04:15:43 PM »
Player 1 has a 9 count open in the first and strikes out for 279
Player 2 has an 8 count in the third and picks up the spare, strikes the other frames for 278
Player 3 has the same as player 2 except his spare is in the 2nd for 280.

Player 2 had 11 strikes and a spare but lose to player one with 11 strikes and an open
Player 2 had 11 strikes and a spare but lose to player three with the exact same game other than the location of the spare.

Maybe there are  people that think that doesn't make sense, hard to disagree.

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Re: WBT scoring. Potential spoilers I guess
« Reply #32 on: February 22, 2016, 08:38:02 PM »
I don't really mind the newer scoring system, so long as it doesn't usurp the traditional method. I'm all for innovative and progression in the sport, and the WBT scoring is kind of fun and more intuitive; however, I think the usual system is just objectively better for professional and amateur competition.
I could just feel the super-traditionalist bowling fan cringe and fume over Barrett's 300. While WBT scoring sort of cheapens the perfect game, I think Barrett would've thrown a 300 if there were 12 shots necessary. He was locked in and had a perfect reaction.
One concession: if WBT scoring helps bowling get into the Olympics, I will support it wholeheartedly in that style of competition. I think the sport's international appeal proves that bowling deserves to be included in the Olympics, and if for some reason, WBT scoring makes a strong push for its inclusion, we should suck it up and get behind it.
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Re: WBT scoring. Potential spoilers I guess
« Reply #33 on: February 23, 2016, 12:58:20 AM »
I'm still in the fence but can see some merit to the new scoring.  I can see were it can level the game by evening the lanes out.  I you have one lane that plays harder than the other for what ever reason both bowlers will have the same number of shots on it.  No more penalty for drawing the harder lane to finish on.  It also takes away the importance of certain frames under the existing scoring. I think I would rather see 12 frames with a strike equal to 25 so that a 300 is still a pure 300.

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Re: WBT scoring. Potential spoilers I guess
« Reply #34 on: February 23, 2016, 01:49:46 AM »
This new scoring makes me want to pull out the "R" word from retirement because it's pretty "R". Changing the scoring system isn't going to make bowling more fun, more interesting, or even put more people on the lanes. This just seems like a unnecessary gimmick that ultimately dumbs down the sport by making the scoring "easier" (as if it's really that hard to figure out as is).

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Re: WBT scoring. Potential spoilers I guess
« Reply #35 on: February 24, 2016, 05:49:24 PM »
The only thing I don't like about the scoring system is the devaluing of the 10th frame.  Why couldn't they simply reduce the value of a strike to 25 and award extra balls in the tenth for spares and strikes the same way they do under traditional scoring.  Then it would still take 12 strikes to throw 300.  Two strikes and 9 would be worth 59 in the tenth.  9 spare and strike would be worth 44.  Making the tenth frame more important rather than less important would seem to be a good thing for excitement.  Frames 1 thru 9 would be the same as on the show except for the reduction in value of a strike from 30 to 25.

As an old timer I really don't see a big benefit in changing, but if they did it seems like the simplicity could be achieved with less damage to the structure of scoring.  My proposal would also inflate scoring under some scenarios, but not as bad as the one used last week

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Re: WBT scoring. Potential spoilers I guess
« Reply #36 on: February 24, 2016, 09:18:50 PM »
The only thing I don't like about the scoring system is the devaluing of the 10th frame.  Why couldn't they simply reduce the value of a strike to 25 and award extra balls in the tenth for spares and strikes the same way they do under traditional scoring.  Then it would still take 12 strikes to throw 300.  Two strikes and 9 would be worth 59 in the tenth.  9 spare and strike would be worth 44.  Making the tenth frame more important rather than less important would seem to be a good thing for excitement.  Frames 1 thru 9 would be the same as on the show except for the reduction in value of a strike from 30 to 25.

As an old timer I really don't see a big benefit in changing, but if they did it seems like the simplicity could be achieved with less damage to the structure of scoring.  My proposal would also inflate scoring under some scenarios, but not as bad as the one used last week
I believe that this is the best of both worlds so to speak. It still keeps scoring easy enough for non bowlers and keeps 12 shots.

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Re: WBT scoring. Potential spoilers I guess
« Reply #37 on: February 24, 2016, 09:49:37 PM »
Isn't it supposed to speed up the amount of time per game bowled?
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Re: WBT scoring. Potential spoilers I guess
« Reply #38 on: February 25, 2016, 12:44:47 PM »
I don't think the intent was to speed up the game, but rather to simplify the scoring for those who don't understand scoring. 

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Re: WBT scoring. Potential spoilers I guess
« Reply #39 on: February 25, 2016, 03:22:46 PM »
Just one more thing to ruin bowling.Leave well enough alone.In the last 25 years I haven't seen one thing help bowling.Balls,lane conditions Oh it will save the game.Lets make it fair so everyone is great.Glad my 40 year run is about over.Bowling is soon gonna be like the old dart machines in all the old run down bars.Nobody uses them because everybody can hit a bullseye or score 21.Not much fun in that.
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