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Why is Kelly Kulick bowling
« on: January 21, 2010, 02:08:58 PM »
Why is she in the TOC?  I know she is a great bowler, but she never won a PBA tournament.  She might have won a women's series event/major, but I just don't get why they put her in there.  

All the other guys in the TOC had to defeat some of their fellow competitors at some point to earn a spot.  But Kulick never won a title bowling against any of the other TOC bowlers.  She beat a bunch of women in the Women's World Championship at the WSOB.

 

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Re: Why is Kelly Kulick bowling
« Reply #91 on: January 26, 2010, 04:23:55 PM »
jls,

1- I was pulling for Kelly (refer to my comment on page 4 of this thread), so don't include me with the group that was obviously anti woman in a man’s sport.

2- Shooting 195 when someone else shoots higher (gender is unimportant) doesn't make one suck, especially on a tough shot.  A bowling game doesn't allow one to stumble too often, especially if one's opponent catches fire.

Bashing Kelly or bashing Chris is equally ludicrous.

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Re: Why is Kelly Kulick bowling
« Reply #92 on: January 27, 2010, 08:52:45 AM »
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JLS,

It was obvious that Barnes was lost on the shot. With more time, perhaps a couple a games under his belt, do you think for a second that he would have shot 195. Probably not, right?

I did not criticize the stepladder format, nor am I pitying Barnes. Just stated an opinion, based on my observation and analysis. The fact that the stepladder format has been around for years does not add too or take away from my observation. Often time, the bowler that works his way down the ladder has a better feel for the lanes than the number one seed. If you have trouble comprehending that, there is not much else I can say to help you understand. If you disagree, then that is fine.

On another matter, why do you see fit to make a personal attack on me or on Barnes for that matter. This is just bowling. You do not know me and I doubt that you know Barnes. To make matters worse, you charade around on this site without even bothering to post a fake profile. Do you have something to hide??

At any rate, your personal attacks are uncalled for and take away from anything worthwhile you might otherwise have to say.
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R U serious....  When you are the leader,  you only bowl in the finals...

Using that as an excuse is stupid.... For years and years the leader has had to face that issue... But I don't recall many using that as an excuse for losing...

Now that a women wins,  you come on and use that as an excuse....

R U serious, or do you just HATE women.....

Your from San Fran,  right.......

Barnes had 8-10 minutes to practice on that pair...

He also had the chance to watch how the others played the lanes....

Unless he was too busy doing interviews... And telling all how the tougher shot favors him.....  ya right...

He got lost,  she didn't....  No excuses...

A women with Zero experience bowling in a mens final... Barnes has boo koo experience..

You come on and simple bash her win with stupid talk...

Now tell me what to say or do...  Cause you are nothing to me...
your a was not has been never was never will be,,,, who is upset that your man, Mr hot dog with everything on it,,, LOST TO A WOMEN...

Now get over it you child...

Go belly ache somewhere else...

Congrads to Kelly   265 - 195....




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Re: Why is Kelly Kulick bowling
« Reply #93 on: January 27, 2010, 03:04:37 PM »
"bowlallthetime:
Why is she in the TOC? I know she is a great bowler, but she never won a PBA tournament. She might have won a women's series event/major, but I just don't get why they put her in there."

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Re: Why is Kelly Kulick bowling
« Reply #94 on: January 27, 2010, 03:18:49 PM »
JLS,

Your ignorance and suspect grammar skills are hilarious, despite your childish tone. You do not know me. No, I am not an internet tough guy like you. But, I have been known to hold down my own in the real world.

Now, getting back to bowling, Kulick had a good day and she won. I am not a Barnes fan, but I still say that the ten minute warm up time that he had was not enough time for him to figure out how to play the lanes. Did you watch the match. If you did, unless you are blind, you had to see that Barnes could not figure out where to play, or what to play with.

Now, good bowlers like yourself would probably go out and shoot 250+ without any warm up. But for the lowly professionals like Barnes, he could of have used a little more, maybe a lots more time.

I want to grow up and be a good bowler, just like you JLS.
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Re: Why is Kelly Kulick bowling
« Reply #95 on: January 27, 2010, 04:43:16 PM »
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JLS,

Your ignorance and suspect grammar skills are hilarious, despite your childish tone. You do not know me. No, I am not an internet tough guy like you. But, I have been known to hold down my own in the real world.

Now, getting back to bowling, Kulick had a good day and she won. I am not a Barnes fan, but I still say that the ten minute warm up time that he had was not enough time for him to figure out how to play the lanes. Did you watch the match. If you did, unless you are blind, you had to see that Barnes could not figure out where to play, or what to play with.

Now, good bowlers like yourself would probably go out and shoot 250+ without any warm up. But for the lowly professionals like Barnes, he could of have used a little more, maybe a lots more time.

I want to grow up and be a good bowler, just like you JLS.
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CC, This makes about as much sense as baking a ball in the oven for 3-4 hours..

Now listen keyboard pounder,  Yes I did indeed watch it,,, Over and over..

And I get a kick out of your geek 101 ploy...

That''s attack grammar and spelling errors...

Now listen child...

Barnes like the other 3 on the show had time to practice...

Between the semi and final match, there was at least 8-10 minutes before play started..."it wasn''t enough time for him"  poor baby...

Well then stop bashing Kelly''s win and talk to the PBA about giving Barnes 3-4 hours to practice...   your such an idiot......

Your lame excuse that she bowled or he got lost is just plain stupid talk, much like baking a ball in the oven for 3-4 hours...

Cause when that cracks,  and I see it all the time,  people like you bring it in to the pro shop and cry like a baby...

Now I can''t help but seeing that in addition to trying to be the grammar nazi police,  you also get a kick out of being a typical keyboard pounding, bowling know it all...

Your a joke... and you think your geek childish attack about grammar will drive people away... Get a life you poor excuse for a human....

To say Barnes could not figure out where to play is one thing... To write off Kelly''s win is another...

"She bowled on his lanes, so she had an advantage"...

Are you serious... That''s what a step ladder format is all about....

Did I mention, your a joke and a little geek boy...  Trying to act like a bowling know it all...

Now go back to what you do best, little geek boy...And that would be, pounding a keyboard by day, while at work....  

And baking your bowling balls for 3-4 hours by  night....

One more thing, grammar geek boy nazi police....

Check out how many people on this site now post in the same format that I do...

And guess what geek boy... Guess who started posting that way...


now

we are clear

so

get lost, cause you really bore me,

and of course

you ain''t now or ever going to be ready for prime time.


still clear
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Re: Why is Kelly Kulick bowling
« Reply #96 on: January 27, 2010, 05:41:55 PM »
JLS,
Once again you make me laugh. Do you want kudos for your basic lack of mastery of the king's language. If so, search somewhere else. No, I do not think that perfect grammar is required or necessary. However, it amazes me that someone as opinionated as you could be so ignorant.

I have not bashed Kulick's win. Actually, after Weber got kicked, I was pulling for her. It was her day, she showed up, she bowled, she kicked arse. None of this changes anything that I said about Barnes earlier.

BTW, why don't you post your profile. Do you have something to hide. If so, make up a profile, claim it and post it. I am sure that it will make for great fictional reading.

And no, neither ball cracked. In fact, one of my teammates begged me to bake his VG, and for sure, it needs it. I left it in my car today. It was 50 degrees for a high, but bright and sunny. The ball was sweating oil sitting on my seat.

If the ball cracks, he says he does not care. It is not hooking and hits like a wet noodle. Of course, I could hot water bathe it, but, the oven is so much faster.

CC
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Re: Why is Kelly Kulick bowling
« Reply #97 on: January 28, 2010, 03:22:55 AM »
Was anyone at the finals? I am curious if the rightys burned up a spot with their practice.  Randy said CB and MK did that to combat Scroggins and Rhino.  I forgot what show that was but it was the show where they had the bet with the pants.

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Re: Why is Kelly Kulick bowling
« Reply #98 on: January 28, 2010, 08:34:44 AM »
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JLS,
Once again you make me laugh. Do you want kudos for your basic lack of mastery of the king''s language. If so, search somewhere else. No, I do not think that perfect grammar is required or necessary. However, it amazes me that someone as opinionated as you could be so ignorant.

I have not bashed Kulick''s win. Actually, after Weber got kicked, I was pulling for her. It was her day, she showed up, she bowled, she kicked arse. None of this changes anything that I said about Barnes earlier.

BTW, why don''t you post your profile. Do you have something to hide. If so, make up a profile, claim it and post it. I am sure that it will make for great fictional reading.

And no, neither ball cracked. In fact, one of my teammates begged me to bake his VG, and for sure, it needs it. I left it in my car today. It was 50 degrees for a high, but bright and sunny. The ball was sweating oil sitting on my seat.

If the ball cracks, he says he does not care. It is not hooking and hits like a wet noodle. Of course, I could hot water bathe it, but, the oven is so much faster.

CC
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Hey child,  <<< CC that be you,  don''t give me your crap about "don''t care"....

People on this site are KNOWN for trying to save a buck on a ball, so don''t go there with, "if it cracks, don''t care B.S.................

Now they have a professional machine that draws the oil out of a ball... It sells for $1595... plus frt....  The ball is in motion and the heat is controlled.. and I believe it is on a 10-20 minute cycle...  Not 4 hours...

Do you have any idea, you simpleton, what it does to a ball when you exposed it to extreme heat over that long a period of time...  It can lead to the core cracking and well as the shell...Too much expanding and contracting...

Now since I unlike you child, deal with this daily... I see it happen all the time...

People like you, clueless,  bake their balls and when then crack, they run into the pro shops and CRY, "my ball cracked"  "My last ball never did"  "My Black Beauty lasted for 30 years"  

So don''t even go there with your crap talk, "Don''t care"  like your a money bowler...  Your a keyboard pounder... nothing more...

Your a has been was not never was never will be...

Your a child trying to play Joe Pro Bowler while at work....

And because you must hate women,  you bashed Kelly''s win over your golden boy...

Which is why, your a lowlife..

If Mika had won, I doubt you would have said that Mika screwed up Barnes shot...

Your a child, a clueless wan a bee trying to act like Joe Pro and give fools who will listen to your crap, advise... Bake your balls for 4 hours...

Your an idiot....

Now recess is over boy, go pee pee on the toy toy, cause we don''t want anymore accidents...Cause your still a bed wetter... And please, wash your hands after you pee on them... You still suck your thumb right...

and most of all boy

get lost, cause you bore me

and you ain''t ready for prime time...

AND ONE MORE THING YOU GEEK ENGLISH MAJOR WANA BEE..

Check your spelling....  Oh that''s right, when little geeks like you misspell a word, you call it a typo...

Boy... You Make Me Sick

now

are we clear




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Re: Why is Kelly Kulick bowling
« Reply #99 on: January 28, 2010, 09:27:03 AM »
WOW!!!

Somebody needs a hug.


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Re: Why is Kelly Kulick bowling
« Reply #100 on: January 28, 2010, 03:29:58 PM »
Jls,

Careful, you are telling too much about yourself. You deal with this all day. Hmmm?? So you work in the bowling field. Are you the laneman at your local alley. Or, are you the owner of a proshop, upset because you are not getting enough business for your rejuvenator? I hope things pick up for you soon.

As for me, not a kid, though I have a couple of children. Not an English major, though I double majored in Speech/Communication and Political Science. Close though, I did have a minor in English. Yes, I have graduate degrees as well. Played highschool basketball, football and ran track. Pledged the toughest college fraternity on campus too. Love to hunt and fish, and in recent years have picked up bowling and karate as additional hobbies. Don't claim to be a bowling expert like you.

Does this make me a geek in your eyes? If so, you have an inferiority complex that I can't help you with.

Sorry to cut you off as you seem to be benefiting from this therapy. I strongly suggest that you seek professional help to address your anxiety issues.   Good luck.  

CC

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Re: Why is Kelly Kulick bowling
« Reply #101 on: March 01, 2010, 03:19:29 PM »
Gee CC, child... No stupid comments about how Barnes didn't have enough time to practice on that pair when Walter Ray Williams beat him...

I guess you only talk stupid talk when a women beats Barnes...

From the #2 spot....

Where you from,  MayBerry,  oops I meant San Fran...

Now I see your leaving Flush 6 pins.....



you throwing a backup ball


now back to doing what you do best...

table tennis with the women and children


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Re: Why is Kelly Kulick bowling
« Reply #102 on: March 03, 2010, 07:01:21 PM »
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Why is she in the TOC?  I know she is a great bowler, but she never won a PBA tournament.  She might have won a women's series event/major, but I just don't get why they put her in there.  



THANK YOU. Finnally someone with the balls to say such a true statement! I was going to post this when she was in it much less won it but decided not to. I think her winning the tournament is incredible. On the otherhand, I think the credibility of the tournament has been destroyed. A few years ago me and many other people were sending emails to PBA.com to open up the field. At the time, the Tournament of Champions was nothing more then a simple bracket match play field which favored some players that loved best of ___ one on one play against another bowler which favored Jason Couch big time obviously.

The tournament was not big enough. They got to the point where a guy would win a PBA tournament and two years later was knocked off. I'm sorry, that's ridiculous. We didn't want everyone in the PBA that won a tournament to be in the TOC. Last thing we need is Eugene McCune (even though he was there this tournament wtf...)to keep being invited back from a tournament that he won many moons ago but for one the first thing we wanted is ANYone that won the TOC since it started and is alive should be a lifetime invite to bowl the tournament. So people like Marshall Holman, Wayne Webb, Steve Cook, Mark Williams, Mike Durbin, Mike Aulby etc would have a lifetime invite to the tournament. Also, open the tournament a little bit to have more bowlers.

However!! It doesn't mean invite regional bowlers or women series winners. Doesn't matter what regional bowler won what tournament even if it is the national regional event. Or what senior did what in whatever.Doesn't matter that a women won a women's major. These ARE NOT PBA TOURING EVENTS. Must be clear on that. PBA tour members earned their titles to be in this tournament. By allowing other pros in it from the different professional organizations diminishes the whole point of the TOC. I don't even think this is an argument. Now there is this merger USBCish attitude that we are all equal and should include everything.

So as far as I'm concerned not only should Kelly Kulick not have been there but same thing goes for Harry Sullins, Dave Wodka, Dave Arnold etc. This is just one of many examples how the PBA has done nothing last couple of years but screw everything up.

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Re: Why is Kelly Kulick bowling
« Reply #103 on: March 04, 2010, 06:26:57 AM »
Using the same logic that several of you have been using to reason that Kelly should not have been allowed to bowl the TOC.  One could also make the same argument that Brian Voss should not have been given an exemption for this season, he did not earn it, by having enough points from last season or from having a title that exempted him, he was gifted this under the golden parachute exemption.  

Now with that being said I have no problem with him or Kelly bowling it is done and there is nothing anyone can do to change it.  What I don't understand is why the same individuals that have been beating the drum about Kelly have not been pounding about Brian.

Mark

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Re: Why is Kelly Kulick bowling
« Reply #104 on: March 04, 2010, 08:52:16 AM »
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Why is she in the TOC?  I know she is a great bowler, but she never won a PBA tournament.  She might have won a women's series event/major, but I just don't get why they put her in there.  



THANK YOU. Finnally someone with the balls to say such a true statement! I was going to post this when she was in it much less won it but decided not to. I think her winning the tournament is incredible. On the otherhand, I think the credibility of the tournament has been destroyed. A few years ago me and many other people were sending emails to PBA.com to open up the field. At the time, the Tournament of Champions was nothing more then a simple bracket match play field which favored some players that loved best of ___ one on one play against another bowler which favored Jason Couch big time obviously.

The tournament was not big enough. They got to the point where a guy would win a PBA tournament and two years later was knocked off. I'm sorry, that's ridiculous. We didn't want everyone in the PBA that won a tournament to be in the TOC. Last thing we need is Eugene McCune (even though he was there this tournament wtf...)to keep being invited back from a tournament that he won many moons ago but for one the first thing we wanted is ANYone that won the TOC since it started and is alive should be a lifetime invite to bowl the tournament. So people like Marshall Holman, Wayne Webb, Steve Cook, Mark Williams, Mike Durbin, Mike Aulby etc would have a lifetime invite to the tournament. Also, open the tournament a little bit to have more bowlers.

However!! It doesn't mean invite regional bowlers or women series winners. Doesn't matter what regional bowler won what tournament even if it is the national regional event. Or what senior did what in whatever.Doesn't matter that a women won a women's major. These ARE NOT PBA TOURING EVENTS. Must be clear on that. PBA tour members earned their titles to be in this tournament. By allowing other pros in it from the different professional organizations diminishes the whole point of the TOC. I don't even think this is an argument. Now there is this merger USBCish attitude that we are all equal and should include everything.

So as far as I'm concerned not only should Kelly Kulick not have been there but same thing goes for Harry Sullins, Dave Wodka, Dave Arnold etc. This is just one of many examples how the PBA has done nothing last couple of years but screw everything up.




Sir,
Did Harry or the two Dave's compete... Did they finish top 10 or top 20...

Miss Kelly finish 2nd... And then won...

She did indeed belong there...

And it was probably the best thing that ever happened for the PBA and bowling in general...

Even if it only lasted for a few days...

now get over it

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Re: Why is Kelly Kulick bowling
« Reply #105 on: March 04, 2010, 10:43:24 AM »

First of all SIR!! Who cares who placed where. What does that matter. And yes Dave competed. Here's the listing for the first round. He, Kelly Kulik and many others shouldn't even be allowed to throw the first ball much less win it. Your missing the whole point.


First Round (after 8 games)

 


 

1, Rhino Page, Wesley Chapel, Fla., 1,885
2, Mike Fagan, Patchogue, N.Y., 1,842
3, Jason Belmonte, Australia, 1,840
4, Sean Rash, Wichita, Kan., 1,833
5, Tommy Jones, Simpsonville, S.C., 1,825
6, Pete Weber, St. Ann, Mo., 1,815
7, Wes Malott, Pflugerville, Texas, 1,807
8, Robert Smith, Columbus, Ohio, 1,799
9, Walter Ray Williams Jr., Ocala, Fla., 1,797
10, Mika Koivuniemi, Howell, Mich., 1,796
11, Bryan Goebel, Shawnee, Kan., 1,792
12, Michael Haugen Jr., Carefree, Ariz., 1,783
13, Eugene McCune, Munster, Ind., 1,781
14, Wayne Webb, Sacramento, Calif., 1,774
14, Amleto Monacelli, Venezuela, 1,774
14, Ernie Schlegel, Vancouver, Wash., 1,774
17, Anthony LaCaze, Melrose Park, Ill., 1,766
18, Norm Duke, Clermont, Fla., 1,763
19, Danny Wiseman, Baltimore, 1,760
20, Dave Wodka, Chatsworth, Calif., 1,759
21, Patrick Allen, Wesley Chapel, Fla., 1,757
22, Harry Sullins, Chesterfield Twp., Mich., 1,756
23, Michael Machuga, Erie, Pa., 1,754
24, John Nolen, Grand Blanc, Mich., 1,739
25, Jack Jurek, Lackawanna, N.Y., 1,738
26, Kelly Kulick, Union, N.J., 1,737
27, Tom Smallwood, Saginaw, Mich., 1,730
28, Joe Ciccone, Buffalo, N.Y., 1,728
29, Dave D'Entremont, Middleburg Heights, Ohio, 1,726
30, Steve Jaros, Yorkville, Ill., 1,725
31, Brad Angelo, Lockport, N.Y., 1,715
32, Mike Scroggins, Amarillo, Texas, 1,713
32, Ritchie Allen, Columbia, S.C., 1,713
34, Parker Bohn III, Jackson, N.J., 1,709
35, Lonnie Waliczek, Wichita, Kan., 1,706
36, Scott Norton, Costa Mesa, Calif., 1,701
37, Chris Barnes, Double Oak, Texas, 1,699
38, Del Ballard Jr., Keller, Texas, 1,697
39, Tony Reyes, San Bruno, Calif., 1,694
40, Jason Couch, Clermont, Fla., 1,689
41, Mike DeVaney, San Diego, 1,685
41, Doug Kent, Newark, N.Y., 1,685
43, Christopher Collins, Savannah, Ga., 1,682
44, Hugh Miller, Mercer Island, Wash., 1,679
45, Ryan Shafer, Horseheads, N.Y., 1,678
46, Mark Williams, Beaumont, Texas, 1,676
47, Bill O'Neill, Southampton, Pa., 1,671
48, Brian Voss, Alpharetta, Ga., 1,670
49, Dale Traber, Cedarburg, Wis., 1,667
50, Dave Arnold, Dublin, Calif., 1,661
51, Tom Baker, King, N.C., 1,641
52, John Petraglia, Jackson, N.J., 1,633
53, Brian Himmler, Cincinnati, 1,628
54, Bryon Smith, Roseburg, Ore., 1,620
55, Rick Lawrence, Waxahachie, Texas, 1,605
56, Jeff Carter, Springfield, Ill., 1,604
57, Mike Mineman, St Louis, Mo., 1,602
57, Mike Wolfe, New Albany, Ind., 1,602
59, Roy Buckley, Westerville, Ohio, 1,570
60, Mike Edwards, Tulsa, Okla., 1,551
61, Dave Soutar, Bradenton, Fla., 1,531
62, Don McCune, Las Vegas, 1,526
63, Carmen Salvino, Schaumburg, Ill., 1,466