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redtop

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WSOB Chameleon
« on: December 17, 2013, 07:35:23 PM »
Does anyone else have a problem believing in a level playing field when
3 right-handers can't shoot above 203, and the sole left-hander can't shoot below
235?  I'm not here to stoke the usual flames about lefties always having an easier
lane condition, because that simply isn't true.  Some would argue that the pattern
just breaks down that way, but this is hard to believe when the number of games
bowled on the pair is only 6!  If a pattern can't hold up equitably for lefties and righties over a measly 6 games, it simply shouldn't be used.  Watching this particular telecast, I am reminded again of what a lousy job the PBA is doing marketing the sport--let's not forget the lack of live coverage, and how about the recent posting that only Dexter shoes will be allowed on Tour?  I haven't checked, but they're probably owned by Storm. Is this kind of totalitarian clubbiness really necessary?
It really looks bad.

 
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Re: WSOB Chameleon
« Reply #31 on: December 19, 2013, 10:04:28 AM »
Maybe they should re-oil after each shot.

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Re: WSOB Chameleon
« Reply #32 on: December 19, 2013, 11:00:37 AM »
With this wonderfully humorous comment--"Why don't we re-oil
after each shot?"--I propose closing this topic. That we are driven to
absurdity sums it up perfectly.

Now, let's all go out and do what we enjoy--knock down some pins!
« Last Edit: December 19, 2013, 11:02:40 AM by redtop »

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Re: WSOB Chameleon
« Reply #33 on: December 20, 2013, 12:20:02 AM »
Never understood why they allow them to break it down in the first place. Its almost like allowing golfers to dig a channel so the ball can roll into the whole.

Anyways the lefty had the advantage but as the week before that proved you still gotta make good shots. He did that this week, he didn't the week before and lost in the title match.

It is ok to wear a defense down in football so as the game goes on it becomes easier to run the ball. In Baseball teams try to get the starting pitcher out of the game so they get to the to the bull pen pitchers how is breaking a pattern down any different? You understand that you break down the pattern to right?
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Re: WSOB Chameleon
« Reply #34 on: December 20, 2013, 05:35:01 AM »
Yes, we all break it down just by bowling.  But we use our normal strike balls,
not equivalents of sandpaper and teflon that will never be used in actual play.

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Re: WSOB Chameleon
« Reply #35 on: December 20, 2013, 06:11:37 AM »
The reality is the PBA is going to make sure the left gets theirs and what the right did or didn't do may have had no effect. 

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Re: WSOB Chameleon
« Reply #36 on: December 20, 2013, 07:48:06 AM »
Maybe since he was the only lefty to make both shows we should just stop and say nice bowling. It's not like it was four left handers in the step ladder.
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Re: WSOB Chameleon
« Reply #37 on: December 21, 2013, 12:46:36 AM »
Yes, we all break it down just by bowling.  But we use our normal strike balls,
not equivalents of sandpaper and teflon that will never be used in actual play.


But how is it different than a running back and o line breaking down a defense as a game goes on or a qb calling a audible?

Someone answer that question.
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Re: WSOB Chameleon
« Reply #38 on: December 21, 2013, 08:32:39 AM »
Match play bowling is not a team sport.

mainzer

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Re: WSOB Chameleon
« Reply #39 on: December 21, 2013, 02:21:38 PM »
But it is beneficial to you as a bowler to open the lanes up on a difficult shot to give yourself the best chance to score. Correct?
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Re: WSOB Chameleon
« Reply #40 on: December 21, 2013, 02:53:12 PM »
But it is beneficial to you as a bowler to open the lanes up on a difficult shot to give yourself the best chance to score. Correct?

Just stop, youre making too much sense.
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Re: WSOB Chameleon
« Reply #41 on: December 21, 2013, 04:41:33 PM »
But it is beneficial to you as a bowler to open the lanes up on a difficult shot to give yourself the best chance to score. Correct?

Just stop, youre making too much sense.

Lmao!
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Re: WSOB Chameleon
« Reply #42 on: December 21, 2013, 07:01:02 PM »
I don't care if it's legal or makes sense; they give the pros way too much time to change the pattern.  It's not a right vs. left thing.  Sometimes the righties make things worse by not working together or carving too deep to start.  I can't even imagine what Parker did 2 weeks ago to make his look so bad on one lane.  If they put out a 48' heavy pattern ("designed" to play in), bowlers shouldn't have enough time and resources to set up a wall on the 5 board.  If you are WRW or Duke  or Barnes and accurate enough to play there, fine, but you shouldn't be able to completely change the pattern that was put out.  Why even have different patterns if they are going to all look the same after they burn them up where they want to?

Heck, the shot got better and better as the night went on for my two weeks on Scorpion and Bear because eventually my original line dried out a bit and I was able use it as I moved in, but in no way should I have been given the chance to show up and bowl 2 games before with a piece of charcoal  3 boards right of where I planned to start game 1.

To use Mainzer's analogy, running plays affect the defense by making them more tired as the game goes on.  They didn't demand that they run 20 laps around the field before the game started.  In bowling every shot affects the lane, but no one should be allowed to blatantly change the lane.

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Re: WSOB Chameleon
« Reply #43 on: December 21, 2013, 08:36:28 PM »
The righties would have faired better if they had thrown plastic down the track on the left side during warm up.

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Re: WSOB Chameleon
« Reply #44 on: December 22, 2013, 12:28:15 AM »
Practice has been limited this season as stated above.

Lets face it any ball used today is gonna change the pattern. When given practice time you gotta start somewhere, track is the most logical spot. So should bowlers not be allowed to practice in the track area?
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I don't care if it's legal or makes sense; they give the pros way too much time to change the pattern.  It's not a right vs. left thing.  Sometimes the righties make things worse by not working together or carving too deep to start.  I can't even imagine what Parker did 2 weeks ago to make his look so bad on one lane.  If they put out a 48' heavy pattern ("designed" to play in), bowlers shouldn't have enough time and resources to set up a wall on the 5 board.  If you are WRW or Duke  or Barnes and accurate enough to play there, fine, but you shouldn't be able to completely change the pattern that was put out.  Why even have different patterns if they are going to all look the same after they burn them up where they want to?

Heck, the shot got better and better as the night went on for my two weeks on Scorpion and Bear because eventually my original line dried out a bit and I was able use it as I moved in, but in no way should I have been given the chance to show up and bowl 2 games before with a piece of charcoal  3 boards right of where I planned to start game 1.

To use Mainzer's analogy, running plays affect the defense by making them more tired as the game goes on.  They didn't demand that they run 20 laps around the field before the game started.  In bowling every shot affects the lane, but no one should be allowed to blatantly change the lane.
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Re: WSOB Chameleon
« Reply #45 on: December 23, 2013, 07:06:30 PM »
I saw that (briefly, but there was so much nonsense in the early posts that I might have blown past it), but does anyone know how much time they get on the TV pair this year as opposed to previous years?

No one said anything about not being able to practice where they want or throwing any particular type of ball.  And I 'm sure as you know (even though you said otherwise), the track isn't the logical place to start on 8 or 9 different patterns.  What is stupid, in my opinion, is allowing them to use 90% of the time to obliterate the pattern into something completely different than what was put down.  There are different patterns with different characteristics for a reason.  Why not just let them throw on a 40' house shot each week?  That would be exciting.  :o