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Neptune
« on: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM »
Through the haze and mist the next planet appears in the distant horizon. The icy blue planet of Neptune is the most distant planet in the Roto Grip® solar system.

The newly designed Orbiter II core with an RG of 2.61 and a differential of .018 was developed to spin smoother and more even along its rotational axis while delivering gravitational shattering pin action.

The Sure Grip IItm pearlized reactive coverstock is the perfect mantle for creating less friction with the atmosphere while traveling along its orbital path.

Once again Roto Grip delivers you the ultimate in price versus performance with its newest planet series ball.



Specifications


Factory Finish  1500- grit polish  
Track Flare Potential  2 Inches  
Lane Condition  Light - Medium Oil  
Cover Stock  Sure Grip IItm Pearl  
Weight Block  Orbiter IItm Core  
Color  Aquamarine / Violet Blue  
D-Scale  75 -78  
Available Weights  10 -16 Pounds




Core Dynamics


WEIGHTS  RG  DIFFERENTIAL  
16 lb.  2.60 (High)  .020 (Low)  
15 lb.  2.61 (High)  .018 (Low)  
14 lb.  2.63 (High)  .017 (Low)  
13 lb.  2.67 (High)  .017 (Low)  
12 lb.  2.67 (High)  .017 (Low)  


 

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Re: Neptune
« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2008, 08:20:36 PM »
This ball is excellent.  My wife needed a ball that would be able to easily clear the heads but have enough backend to trip out the 5-pin and this ball did just that.  Very nice, smooth rolling with a sharp breakpoint.  She throws approx. 12-13 MPH with lots of axis tilt and moderate revs.  Not quite a helicopter spinner, but closer to that than a full roller.  I'd estimate axis tilt at 70 degrees.  Ball was drilled pin just above ring finger, CG in center of span.  I'm amazed at the carry and pin action she gets.  Her average was 165 but she's already on track to bring that up to 175 easily just by virtue of the strike carry (over 40% strikes so far).  The nice thing is it was easy for her to find a line where a tug left kept it in the oil, while swinging it out to the dry (on a THS) resulted in just enough rollout to not overreact.

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Re: Neptune
« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2008, 09:12:11 PM »
I'm a 2Handed bowler with many revs and do not like a strong arcing, strong hooking ball, this ball was the answer to my prayers.  It has excellent length with a very smooth roll and carries nicely.  First time with it I shot 220, 220, 206, not bad.  If anyone knows balls similar to this, i would love to hear what they are.  Thanks

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Re: Neptune
« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2008, 01:36:58 AM »
I was a little disappointed with this ball, and I'll explain why.  It may have partially been my fault in that the layout I chose may not have been completely right for what I wanted.  I wanted a ball to be my dry lane ball, go long on broken down conditions, and be controlled at the breakpoint.  I drilled my Neptune with the pin above and just to the right of the ring finger, and the CG very close to the middle of the grip.  The Neptune hooks much more than I expected.  The length isn't bad, but the backend move is so strong, it forces me just as deep inside as I am using my Kinetic or 'NSane LevRG, only those balls will perform better on oil than the Neptune will.  So, I have a ball that doesn't help me too much more than my stronger equipment on drier lanes, but can't handle oil as well as they do.  I have polished it, and it helped slightly, but still was too strong on the backend.  I have also considered redrilling it, putting the pin below the fingers, and kicking the CG out a bit to make it a bit smoother, but I'm not sure if a redrill will make a big enough difference for what I'm looking for, considering it is a powerful, but pretty basic core.  This ball may be a very pleasant surprise for a starting bowler in that it is plenty of hook and power for a very low price tag, but it was more than what I was looking for.  The Hornet is still the straightest, tamest ball on the backend, that isn't plastic that I have thrown, tough standard to live up to.

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Re: Neptune
« Reply #19 on: April 20, 2008, 11:54:25 PM »
So the latest addition to my arsenal was the bluest of them all: The Neptune.  I was looking for a ball to fit the drier/shorter conditions, and I think I may have found a pretty good piece.

I have this bad boy drilled identically to my T-Road Pearl: 6 inches pin to PAP, ~3.5 CG to PAP.  Looks something like this:

---*----    <- Pin
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My PAP is 4.5 inches over, I'm a stroker with medium speed and a very forward roll.

So far I have kept this ball OOB for all shots I have thrown, and if there was one word to describe this ball: "Long"  Length is never ever a problem with this piece.  It can go long as day and probably then some.  I have bowled on a variety of shots with it.

House #1:  Fresh THS, about 41 feet in length and WET.  Yeah, don't use a Neptune here.

House #1:  Not so fresh THS (after about 10 full games)  When my other stuff began to check up too early,  I could throw this Neptune up the boards without a problem.  It got down the lane ~45 feet and made it's smooth move into the pocket.  I must say that it was a beautiful move too, nothing too drastic or wild in the back.

House #2:  Cheetah pattern.  This 5 game tourney on the Cheetah was very different that my other experiences on this pattern.  Outside of 5 was out of bounds, and the back of the pattern was VERY flat.  I found myself playing straight up 6-7-8 and having relatively good success with my Storm Pyro.  By the time games 4 and 5 rolled around, that was checking up too early and I switched to the Neptune and it gave me a beautiful look that wasn't having any problems going too heavy.  This was the reason I bought it basically, and I loved it.

House #3:  Cheetah pattern.  This 3 game tourney was on the DRYEST Cheetah.  Ever.  I found myself throwing the Neptune from ball one, standing at 20, throwing 15 to 6 and having trouble keeping my speed up.  I've never seen people play left to right on this pattern until I went to this little tournament.  I had some success, but the Neptune was really jumpy off the spot and I was having control issues.  Maybe the Neptune is too strong to handle the dead dry stuff?  Who knows.  

Back to House #1:  State tournament, 3rd shift (they had about 25 games on it by the time I got there).  So this shot was absolutely dead.  I had good success with my T-Road Pearl, but once that started hooking too early I went to my Neptune, and it was a gorgeous gorgeous look.  It had a monstrous margin of error to the right, and it would hold if I tugged it, and this is on SLOP!  I was so happy with it!  But again, I found it to be very speed sensitive and by the end of my 6th game (31st's for the lanes), the Neptune was wicked off the spot.  

All in all, the Neptune is a great ball for drier lanes, but not bone dry (at least in my experiences so far).  I may change my thoughts on this after some surface tinkering and playing more with it going more left to right.  The hit is always good, the carry is always good.  Yes, I've left corner pins with it, but that's partially due to me using it on more oil than is intended.  With the right conditions, this ball is a dream come true (like that state tourney I did today, I was the only one not throwing it as fast as possible from at least the 30 board).  Despite it's sometimes surprisingly strong backend, this ball does what it's designed for with flying colors.  And as a lovely lovely surprise, it doubles as my spare ball.  I've actually only missed 2 or 3 ten pins in the 2 months I have this ball, MUCH better than what I usually do.  

So all in all, if you're looking for a piece for dryer/short patterns, or if you find your other stuff rolling out or crushing the nose, then go get yourself a Neptune.  Just be wary of it's unusually strong backend off the dry.  I'm going to give an update after I get it hit with a 2000 pad and maybe a spot of polish.  Any questions feel free to PM me!
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Re: Neptune
« Reply #20 on: June 22, 2008, 09:12:16 AM »
Lately the league I bowled in uses the short 32-35 feet conditions, with clean backend. All the balls (even polished ones) that I currently have hooks so early and extremely jumpy leaving me with bad splits. Ok, my Stats are as below:
Revs: 270-300
Ball speed: 16.5-17mph
Target: 12th towards 7-8th board

After a while I bought the Neptune (3.08 oz topweight, 4" Pin to CG) and drilled the Pin 1 1/4" to the PAP and put CG towards the Grip center. Drilled a hole on the PAP to make it legal.

Results:
WOW! I averaged 200+ today. The the ball sure rolls early but with the smooth arcing reaction it found its way to the pocket and STRIKE!!!. This is definitely the ball to be used on short pattern/drier condition. I just love this ball!!!


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Re: Neptune
« Reply #21 on: September 03, 2008, 10:44:13 PM »
This is yet another tremendous ball in the Roto Grip line that exceeds expectations.  I wasn't expecting too much out of the Neptune since it is a more mid-level ball, but I was wrong.  Ever since I got the Neptune I've never had a bad set when I've used it.  It works out well on house conditions but is also a great ball for the tougher tournament and PBA conditions.  The reason that this ball has worked so well for me is because I have a high rev rate and on certain conditions it's hard for me to get my aggressive balls to get down the lane.  With the Neptune I'm able to get the ball through the heads, but I don't lose anything in the backend because once it gets to the breakpoint on the lane it reacts very strongly.  If you are looking to add a ball to your bag that can help you out on tougher dry conditions then I would look no further then the Neptune.  It's an important bowling ball for any serious players arsenal.
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Re: Neptune
« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2008, 03:13:40 PM »
Okay, after 5 games of throwing it intermittently on and off last night, I have come to the conclusion this ball was worth what I paid for it. (I got it for free).

However, that being said, it was not drilled to be a good ball. I drilled it on axis (polished), for when they are fried, so the ball would be a slow, smooth, gradual arc, with enough hit on the backend to carry, and not so much that I'm diving through the nose in the 35th (or more) game on a pair during a tournament.


This ball does what it's supposed to. Slow, gradual arc, decent carry, etc. However, not my favorite, and definitely not the "go to ball" unless I'm interested in experimenting.






I'll update later when I get to throw a few more games on it, and when I actually get to throw it on the lanes for which it was intended: toast.
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Re: Neptune
« Reply #23 on: October 03, 2008, 11:41:43 AM »
My Neptune rolls great! The ball rolls very long and fairly strong off the backend. Carry is great it keeps the pins low. The coverstock is very versatile:
Box: alot of length with a strong backend
2000 abralon: still alot of length with a smooth continuous backend reaction
1000 abralon: *my favorite- good length more midlane reaction and smooth and arcing motion on the back (cuts down on the skid snap)

Drilling: pin is above ring cg kicked out right with axis pitched away from center (3/4") and 1 1/2" past the PAP.

I rolled this ball alot in my 2nd shift leagues it has not seen alot of use in tournaments yet but I see this ball rolling very well on the shorter type patterns like viper, cheetah.

This is yet another great ball made by this great company!!

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Re: Neptune
« Reply #24 on: December 23, 2008, 04:30:55 PM »
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great ball. does just what its suppose to do, hooks in the dry. it just slides through the oil and when hits the dry, watch out. it makes the biggest left turn i have ever seen. i also use it as a spare ball because it doesn't hook in the oil so it won't hook away from the pins. it hits okay for a mid performance ball. if you use it in the medium oil shots, it leaves weak 10 pins but as the lanes break down, this is the ball to use. when it is in its hooking motion, it hits like a mac truck. no pins left up. i would reccommend that you have a ball like this for the drier lanes. awesome ball to own.

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Re: Neptune
« Reply #25 on: September 08, 2009, 11:24:23 PM »
Great ball for playing the boards and right off the gutter without over reaction. The lay-out consist of a 5x3 with 40 degrees, putting the pin 1 inch above the center line of my fingers. Great ball for me on Cheetah and shorter oil patterns I run into. Also really great for wood lanes then have been used quite hard and not resurfaced for a couple of years. Thanks RG and Bowlers Supply.
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Re: Neptune
« Reply #26 on: June 05, 2010, 12:13:00 PM »
Neptune is a great buy. Roto-grip should bring it back. Between the Neptune, venus and pluto, all that you need is plastic. Full four ball arsenal under $400. POW!!
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