A Shout with a surface change would be close to a Saturn if you're looking for a replacement! The Wrecker would be a lot stronger at the breakpoint! I just got rid of a Saturn and drilled a Shatter! The Shatter is a lot more ball downlane than the Saturn ever thought about being, but the Saturn was all about being smooth and controlled! If the Wrecker is hooking to much the Saturn or Shout would be a good ball to go with! Similar RG number, Saturn a little higher and the Wrecker has a higher Diff.