I have been patiently waiting for these balls to come out for a while to see which would be a good step-down ball for my 20 yr. old daughter who absolutely loves her Rising Star. 

She kills with the RS (~205-210 avg.) on a Medium THS but as she moves left to combat transition there gets to a point that the ball has lost some of it's energy and it hits fairly flat.  I was hoping to get either the Scream or Shout for her in order to allow her to square up a bit more than she can now with the RS on a Medium-Light THS.

If anyone has thrown or seen either of these (besides the sport shot video already out from Roto / VideoBallReviews) I'd love to get your opinion before I buy.

Thanks

Thanks for the thought on the Shatter but I already kind of discounted that ball.  If you look at Roto's website in general they are saying it is basically the same overall ball strength as the Rising (a bit more length, with a bit more backend) and VideoBallReviews.com basically confirmed that for me.  The reason my thinking is focused on the Scream or Shout is that at 2.57 .022 it should allow for a further right breakpoint on a broken down shot.

I got my Shatter punched up today. The Shatter does get more length and backend and would retain energy to carry from deeper angles compared to the Rising. But I think it could be stronger than the Rising on broken down shots due to that energy retention. Because of that I think you're correct that it's probably not the ideal choice for your daughter.

After throwing my Shatter and having seen the difference between it and the Scream on the videoballreviews video I have the same concern as rotogrip_rick in that it could go too long. So I think it would come down to if you got the Shout you might be able to play close to where you were with the Rising when it needs to be put away. Or if you went with the Scream you'd probably be making a move back right to get a proper reaction with it again. Either option has it's merits, it just depends on what the bowler wants.

And for those interested in the Shatter I think it's a good ball but it definitely wasn't as weak as I was expecting. I only threw it four games today but my early impression is it might be a smoother Victory Road Pearl that reads the mid-lane better but is slightly less angular on the back.

Sounds like your question has been answered already, but i'll throw in another vote for the shout...for all the reasons mentioned above.  The scream is very clean/long where as the shout wants to read the lane a touch earlier and is much closer to what i have seen out of my rising star.  Happy to hear you guys are using my videos as a tool to help make more educated decisions on your purchases.

al-g ---- do you have your Shatter pin up or down - I haven't put holes in mine yet - I'm still debating on if I should drill it the same as my Rising?

Pin over ring. If you've seen the videoballreviews video mine is drilled almost identical to Britton's except I have an axis hole 2" past my PAP - actually past it, not on the VAL. This drilling matches a drilling I liked on an old Spit Fire and this ball rolls very similar to that except it's stronger overall than that.

I'll need to throw it on more lane conditions before getting a true opinion but if it continues to be as strong as I think it is I'll probably change the surface. Maybe try 3000 dull or shiny instead of the OOB 1500 shined. I really like the way it rolls though, it's very predictable and a reaction shape I was looking for. A regional guy I know who has a couple titles and throws Brunswick only even stopped by to comment how much he liked it's reaction.

So I got my daughter's Shout today and I drilled it up her favorite control layout (5 x 4).  We probably won't get a chance to bowl until Friday so I'll give you all some feedback then.

One thing that hit me when I opened the box though is how much this ball looks just like the Storm Screamin Banshee.  If you stripped the labels off of both balls you wouldn't be able to tell the difference.  Is it that there are only a few color combinations left out there or do the ball manufacturers get lazy and just go back to tried and true colors?

So my daughter and I went to our local center today and she got a chance to throw the Shout along with her Rising Star for comparison.  The lanes had a little more oil than I would have liked to have seen but it was broken down enough to get a sense of reaction.  Compared to the Rising Star the Shout was a little longer (not much, maybe 2 extra feet) and a little smoother backend reaction.  Hitting power was fantastic with great carry and continuation through the pin deck.  We definitely got the right ball.

One thing I would like to point out to anyone looking to buy a Shout is this is NOT a weak ball.  It obviously doesn't require much oil but for a 'light oil' ball it has a pretty nice roll with an aggressive enough move and drive to knock everything in it's path.  The roll reminds me of the Thunderstruck Solid from a few years back; clean through the heads with a nice arc and excellent drive.

And remember to adjust the surface if necessary to fine tune it.