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What Purpose/Condition Do Rumble + Uproar Serve?
« on: November 24, 2013, 07:35:45 PM »
The Rumble and Uproar are both 2.55 RG and a low differential of .030.  The Storm's IQTS and IQTP are 2.49 RG and .029 Diff. 

SO are the Rumble and Uproar supposed to be Roto's version of the Storm low diff balls? 

I love my IQTS, but wish it would hit just a touch harder on my home house's THS.  Would the Rumble's higher RG make just enough difference to achieve that?  BTW, I had an IQTP.  It rolled earlier than my solid.  They were drilled the same. 

My center uses ICE oil for a 42' pattern.  I am a right handed 370 RPM, 17 MPH bowler.  I am medium axis tilt/rotation. 

 

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Re: What Purpose/Condition Do Rumble + Uproar Serve?
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2013, 08:08:13 PM »
I would not consider them to be RG's version of the IQ tour editions... also you seem to be focusing on undrilled core numbers when the coverstock is the main reason the core will get to have any influence on the ball motion.  Nevermind the fact that you probably don't bowl with undrilled bowling balls...

I would doubt that Utah would put as strong of a cover on a ball that retails for $50 less than an IQ Tour...

How were your IQ TE's drilled?  Dual angle layout would be nice but, pin to PAP distance and location/depth of extra holes is useful as well.

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Re: What Purpose/Condition Do Rumble + Uproar Serve?
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2013, 08:37:51 PM »
Drilled a Rumble Sat.  My stats. in profile.  Used it on two conditions both 39' one house shot about 10:1 and a modified White 39' 6:1. 

Rumble is all about surface.  A true medium benchmark ball for me at OOB 2000.  One observation is that most equipment for me with surface on higher friction lanes tends to puke and burn up NOT the Rumble it's higher Rg and low total diff plus my layout got it down lane and ball motion is a longish heavy roll no flip.  Quite the control piece without the control layout. 

Uproar will be an interesting pearl piece with same core.  I see the Uproar as a light-medium ball for me under the Rumble.

RG seems to have hit on some winners the past few years.  Lots of Disturbed, Deranged, Wreckers, Defiant line in my area.

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Re: What Purpose/Condition Do Rumble + Uproar Serve?
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2013, 08:52:58 PM »
my rumble is oob 2000 abralon, i drilled it stacked over ring no balance hole.  I have used it on a heavy oil 42 ft house pattern.  on this particular shot it shines. For a dull ball this ball flips.  It ignores the heads but once it sees friction it goes right for me.  I als bowl in a light volume house shot league that have very sharp backends.  Cant use this ball there this ball is way to strong.  This ball in oob conditions is alot stronger than one would think. i am looking forward to the uproar.

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Re: What Purpose/Condition Do Rumble + Uproar Serve?
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2013, 09:05:47 PM »
I would not consider them to be RG's version of the IQ tour editions... also you seem to be focusing on undrilled core numbers when the coverstock is the main reason the core will get to have any influence on the ball motion.  Nevermind the fact that you probably don't bowl with undrilled bowling balls...

I would doubt that Utah would put as strong of a cover on a ball that retails for $50 less than an IQ Tour...

How were your IQ TE's drilled?  Dual angle layout would be nice but, pin to PAP distance and location/depth of extra holes is useful as well.

I agree w/ you about the $50 thing.  SO are you saying that you believe the Rumble has a lot less aggressive surface than the IQT Solid?

 I don't understand what you mean by undrilled balls.  I don't have a way to measure the RG's and Diffs of my drilled stuff.   All I have to go on is what the ball spec sheet says, and how other balls with similar specs have performed for me in the past.  Is there a way to measure the RG and Diff of a drilled ball?

MY IQT's are drilled just like Scotts pic, except for the pins are directly right of the ring finger as opposed to Scotts being right over it.   I would get you the dual angles but I don't have the balls with me.   I remember the pin to pap distance being 3 3/4" though.

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Re: What Purpose/Condition Do Rumble + Uproar Serve?
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2013, 09:15:48 PM »
Drilled a Rumble Sat.  My stats. in profile.  Used it on two conditions both 39' one house shot about 10:1 and a modified White 39' 6:1. 

Rumble is all about surface.  A true medium benchmark ball for me at OOB 2000.  One observation is that most equipment for me with surface on higher friction lanes tends to puke and burn up NOT the Rumble it's higher Rg and low total diff plus my layout got it down lane and ball motion is a longish heavy roll no flip.  Quite the control piece without the control layout. 

Uproar will be an interesting pearl piece with same core.  I see the Uproar as a light-medium ball for me under the Rumble.

RG seems to have hit on some winners the past few years.  Lots of Disturbed, Deranged, Wreckers, Defiant line in my area.

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It looks like you layed this out for a Motion Hole. 

I guess I got off topic a little.  How is Roto Grip envisioning customers using these  balls?  Wouldn't the Rumble react a lot like the Disturbed? 
Or are they just giving the consumer a similar hook shape for less money than the Disturbed? 

It seems like Roto had a specific purpose in mind when they designed these balls.  They are medium high RG with lower Diff.  What condition were they aiming these balls to be used on?

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Re: What Purpose/Condition Do Rumble + Uproar Serve?
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2013, 09:16:35 PM »
davidinil,

Storm doesn't have a 2.55 .030 15 lb. and nothing in the Hot line or Tropical line that is solid especially with a  2000 OOB surface.  Rumble covers a nice medium control slower response to friction ball that many manufacturers don't have.   RG always seems to have this kind of ball in their line-up.  ie. Outlaw, Riot, Shooting Star, Saturn not all had the same specs but all had the control slower response to friction ball motion.

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Re: What Purpose/Condition Do Rumble + Uproar Serve?
« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2013, 09:21:12 PM »
It looks like you layed this out for a Motion Hole.

Yes if I wanted to go that route...so far I like what I see without the Motion hole.  We'll see.

I guess I got off topic a little.  How is Roto Grip envisioning customers using these  balls?  Wouldn't the Rumble react a lot like the Disturbed?
Or are they just giving the consumer a similar hook shape for less money than the Disturbed?

Not sure but I would envision much the same ball motion as a Disturbed.  There are vids out here that compare them.  For me cost doesn't mean better scores.   :)

It seems like Roto had a specific purpose in mind when they designed these balls.  They are medium high RG with lower Diff.  What condition were they aiming these balls to be used on?

Medium to light-medium for me as a bowler that has the ability to play different trajectories.
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Re: What Purpose/Condition Do Rumble + Uproar Serve?
« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2013, 09:26:14 PM »
Scott:  I see.  This gives Roto 2 balls in the lineup that are more control-ish to handle the over / under condition?  Now that you put it like that it makes a lot of sense.  These balls should be usable on a wider array of conditions than the Storm Breeze's would be.  The Breeze seems to be squirrely to a lot of people. 

So Rumble/Uproar would be good choices for when you are shooting on a THS that's giving you a lot of over/under?

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Re: What Purpose/Condition Do Rumble + Uproar Serve?
« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2013, 09:36:18 PM »
Scott:  I see.  This gives Roto 2 balls in the lineup that are more control-ish to handle the over / under condition?  Now that you put it like that it makes a lot of sense.  These balls should be usable on a wider array of conditions than the Storm Breeze's would be.  The Breeze seems to be squirrely to a lot of people. 

So Rumble/Uproar would be good choices for when you are shooting on a THS that's giving you a lot of over/under?


Rumble in OOB definitely needs to be played by the majority of us inside out on house shots.....unless speed dominant lower revs.  You can see my layout is not control but surface leads to more control.

Uproar being a more skid flippy pearl not sure I would say that it will control side to side friction.  Pearl would allow from front to back early friction.  Heard today that RG will be dropping Shatter so Uproar fills that slot though Uproar is less total diff.



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Re: What Purpose/Condition Do Rumble + Uproar Serve?
« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2013, 09:41:05 PM »
Yeah, nobody around me ever throws the Shatter.  IDK why.  But I see Disturbed and Deranges and lots of Wreckers.  I know 2 guys who own Shatters, but they never found a condition that it would work well on. 

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Re: What Purpose/Condition Do Rumble + Uproar Serve?
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2013, 10:29:28 PM »
I'm throwing a Disturbed at 3000 on its great on my ths. I was thinking about grabbing a rumble and possibly polishing it.
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Re: What Purpose/Condition Do Rumble + Uproar Serve?
« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2013, 11:23:14 PM »
I whack my local ths on wood lanes....im hoping to do the same on synthetics with the rumble....
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Re: What Purpose/Condition Do Rumble + Uproar Serve?
« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2013, 10:46:15 AM »
What RG is trying to do with their line up is create a similar reaction with stronger or weaker covers, making it easier to transition from ball to ball in their line up. RG is to Storm as Brunswick is to DV8 (Big Cores to Smaller Cores). RG gives the length of Storm without the huge amounts of flip. From what I've seen and thrown, The Low End line has a core similarly shaped to the Spit Fire from Storm. They, pretty much are the same balls as the Star series of balls and roll really well on a wide variety of patterns. The Rumble is going to be a great THS Benchmark for most and that Core is great for the Motion Hole as I have a Shatter with the MoTion Hole. I have loved the Shatter and Wrecker and will have a Rumble by the end of the month with a Motion Hole to compliment the Shatter with Motion Hole. These have been some of the most driller friendly balls ever.

The Disturbed is an Incredible ball for oil (which I have owned and loved). The ball picks up early and rolls heavy, and strikes.... A LOT!!!!! The Deranged is the Pearl Version and rolls equally as good. They are have slightly higher core numbers because the covers are so strong.

Overall, I think the Rumble is going to be another great solid that will be forgotten like the Riot, Horizon Solid, and the Outlaw which strike a lot and because they don't flip. My suggestion, get one or two while you can. For the price and drill versality, you can lose.
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Re: What Purpose/Condition Do Rumble + Uproar Serve?
« Reply #14 on: November 25, 2013, 11:25:35 AM »


The Disturbed is an Incredible ball for oil (which I have owned and loved). The ball picks up early and rolls heavy, and strikes.... A LOT!!!!! The Deranged is the Pearl Version and rolls equally as good. They are have slightly higher core numbers because the covers are so strong.

Overall, I think the Rumble is going to be another great solid that will be forgotten like the Riot, Horizon Solid, and the Outlaw which strike a lot and because they don't flip. My suggestion, get one or two while you can. For the price and drill versality, you can lose.

I agree and I certainly hope it won't be forgotten. I love my Outlaw, and my Riot! My Horizon Solid was my benchmark ball for at least three years before it cracked, so if the Rumble is any where close to being as good as that, I'd better pick up a couple of these for sure!
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