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APheLion

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will odyssey replace my infinite one?
« on: September 06, 2008, 05:58:48 AM »
i play on a short house pattern, very light volume of oil and sometimes carrydown from the open play.

i have my infinite one drilled pin up bt fingers and mb at 75 degrees, very strong drill, with great midlane and very good turn at the corner. but as any ebonite ball, the bridge is cracked and also all around the fingers, its just matter of time b4 is gives up on me.

so i have a nib odyssey and cell, and as far i see, the cell wont do the job, will the odyssey do if i lay it out similar to my infinite one?
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mrbowlingnut

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Re: will odyssey replace my infinite one?
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2008, 02:17:54 PM »
Infinite One for short and light oil???  Wow that is kind of interesting to me, odyssey or cell for short oil???

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Re: will odyssey replace my infinite one?
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2008, 02:19:29 PM »
Pluto would be a better choice solid cover, so carrydown would not make it squirt or stand up too tall.

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Re: will odyssey replace my infinite one?
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2008, 02:26:55 PM »
I doubt an Odyssey will work on light oil.

You may get away with a Pluto depending on speed and revs, maybe some cover adjustments.

The Saturn is also just as strong, maybe if you sand it too 4000 it will work.

Bot of mine are absolutely too strong for anything less than fresh mediums.

How about a strong drilled Neptune or a Mercury?
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APheLion

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Re: will odyssey replace my infinite one?
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2008, 03:37:12 PM »
so far i ve been successful with the infinite one on my house, however i have to throw it fast, i drilled up a black pearl reactive and with similar speed than the infinite one, it didnt react fast enough.

as i said, will the odyssey be close enough to infinite one on other conditions? infinite one comes at 500 abralon finish, the odyssey comes at 2000 abralon, what happens if i sand it to the same grid?

i also have a SSSE, but i doubt that it will work
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When a house bowler misses the mark, misses the break point and strike, for many ppl its called a wallshot. When a pro does that its call adjustment

When a house bowler gets his finger stuck in the ball and fall on the lanes, for many ppl its called lame bowler. When a pro does that its called the Machuga flop! ha i like this one.

Edited on 9/6/2008 3:39 PM

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Re: will odyssey replace my infinite one?
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2008, 08:04:10 PM »
Odyssey will be stronger, I believe the Cell would be a better choice....
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Re: will odyssey replace my infinite one?
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2008, 11:41:22 PM »
You are right. The Cell would not work on this shot. Not because of the carry down (it doesnt effect this ball which is one of the things that makes it special) but because of the light head oil and short pattern. Higher revs and it would puke or you would not be able to get it to the right side of the lane. Lower revs and it would struggle getting going with the lack of head oil.

Havent thrown or seen the Odyssey so cant really say either way.

My recommendation would be the Pluto. Mine is a shorter pin and it is drilled 4x4 with the pin right above the ring finger. True it is not a high flare ball, but trust me it is not a light oil ball either. We have brand new synthetics on this one league and they are dumping alot of oil with an oob. I was actually playing in the oob (second arrow at arrows swinging to about the 5 board) and it would get to the end of the pattern and just explode at the pins. Carry down did become an issue after the second game but enter Cell here.




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Re: will odyssey replace my infinite one?
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2008, 01:16:24 AM »
hey there
  with you bowling on short oil and still throwing the infinite your best bet would be the odyssey..you could make the cell work but thats not really what it is for.. I think the odyssey will be a little strong on both spectrums(earlier and angular).. you can also change the cover, it takes to changes nicely.. why don't you try a cover change on your black pearl first before drill another ball though or fix your infinite one?? if you do drill up the odyssey, I would throw it first before changing the cover though..  slashrr69

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Re: will odyssey replace my infinite one?
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2008, 01:16:30 AM »
i just joined a sunday morning league, and that was fresh oil

let me tell u what i saw today... i saw disaster!

the short pattern looked like a 45 feet long pattern, except the house pattern doesnt have a so dry outside and clean backend.

my infinite one as of the rest of my equipment pretty much skid all the way down the lane. i wanted to stay firm and straight but none of my balls would turn

i think im going to drill up the odyssey with a strong layout and use it to play the same line hopefully having some nice look with it
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When a house bowler misses the mark, misses the break point and strike, for many ppl its called a wallshot. When a pro does that its call adjustment

When a house bowler gets his finger stuck in the ball and fall on the lanes, for many ppl its called lame bowler. When a pro does that its called the Machuga flop! ha i like this one.

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Re: will odyssey replace my infinite one?
« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2008, 07:38:33 AM »
i have an odyssey at 500 with pin right and under ring mb just right of thumb and on tougher shots its my go to ball .cell with same set up was very uncontrollable and unuseable for me. the odyssey is my all time fav ball .polished dull ,whatever. i thought the infinite was at 600 box. I am biased ,but i have not seen a condition i couldnt use an odyssey on with the right set up. Maybe i got lucky ,but i love mine, i have 2, looking for a third.
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Re: will odyssey replace my infinite one?
« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2008, 07:58:03 AM »
APheLion,

Please explain because I am very confused here.

The Infinite is supposed to come with a 500 grit Abralon surface. Does yours have this or has it been modified?

I can't imagine anyone with a ball speed UNDER 20 mph (32 kph) using this ball on TRUE medium oil lanes.

You say you tried a Black Pearl Reactive? Why? They do not cover the same amounts of oil UNLESS the INFINTE has bene polished up , A LOT!

This whole thread makes no sense to me unless this surface issue is cleared up.

Under "NORMAL" circumstances, the Infinite One, the Odyssey and the Cell will all handle similar oil amounts in different ways.
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Re: will odyssey replace my infinite one?
« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2008, 08:32:17 AM »
Checked out vids in profile. Seem to have pretty good ball speed, but still can't believe that Infinite One (at 500grit) is working on a light oil pattern unless it is an older ball with alot of oil absortion making it a weaker but still effective ball on lighter conditions. This happen to me with the Big One, lost pop after 150 games and went form med-hev ball to med-light ball and was still effective.

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Re: will odyssey replace my infinite one?
« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2008, 01:50:37 PM »
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Checked out vids in profile. Seem to have pretty good ball speed, but still can't believe that Infinite One (at 500grit) is working on a light oil pattern unless it is an older ball with alot of oil absortion making it a weaker but still effective ball on lighter conditions. This happen to me with the Big One, lost pop after 150 games and went form med-hev ball to med-light ball and was still effective.


I understand. I'd like the original poster, Aphelion, to clarify, though.

Too many times I see people in many forums say they're using XX ball, usually a heavy oiler, only to find out later that they drilled it with the pin in the track and they sanded it to 4000 grit and put a dose of Delayed Reaction on it. Meanwhile they don't think it important to mentionthis. Then they ask us to why it was doing something unusual or they ask us to recommend a comparable ball.
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