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dizzyfugu

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Solaris Blackout Setup - anything to be aware of?
« on: August 11, 2011, 12:32:38 AM »
Hi folks,


I have become an owner of a used (and already plugged) Solaris Blackout. Ball has a 3" pin, TW unknown so far, surface OOB. AFAIK, the ball is pretty smooth and rather arcing by nature, due to its low RG core ad lower differential. My plan is to apply my favorite layout, pin at 4.5" from PAP and the CG stacked in the palm, for rather generic use on THS and medium to lighter patterns.


 


Is there anything someone is aware of that has to be specially taken into account with this ball, like the case of some Brusnwick balls like the Radical Inferno or the Twisted Fury Pearl ,which needed to be drilled stronger than usual to make them work effectively for most players?


 


I do not expect any trouble, but since this is my first Seismic ball and 900Global balls are rare around here, I thought I'd ask...


 


Many thanks in advance!



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Edited by dizzyfugu on 12.08.2011 at 5:59 AM
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Re: Solaris Blackout Setup - anything to be aware of?
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2011, 08:22:34 PM »
Dizzy, this is just a Low Rg, Mid diff Mild covered Symmetric cored ball, it's the Asymmetric Siesmic's you have to be careful with! The only consideration you need to focus on is rolling over the Plug.


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Re: Solaris Blackout Setup - anything to be aware of?
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2011, 05:57:03 AM »
Dizzy, check out Dean's video; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oIaOsIzwEU
 
As you can see, you can put pretty much any layout on this ball - go for your favourite layout and you will be able to use it on almost any condition.


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Re: Solaris Blackout Setup - anything to be aware of?
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2011, 06:00:44 AM »
Thank you so far! Also received very valuable PM information; I'll have the orb punched up tomorrow, I do not expect any reaction-wise surprises. I was just worried about the coverstock's strength, in combination with the lower differential. But I will go for the 4.5" stacked layout and see what happens, unless my ball driller (internal weight is still unknown - you never know...) has other ideas and suggestions.


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Re: Solaris Blackout Setup - anything to be aware of?
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2011, 06:31:22 AM »
Dizzy, where are you bowling at the moment?  Are you still in Germany?
 
The OOB finish on the Blackout is quite snappy off the breakpoint, simply due to the highly polished and tacky surface, but after a few games it smoothens out and that reaction stays!  So don't expect it to be a hook monster, it is a medium oil control ball, and if you use it for that you will be impressed I can assure you!


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Re: Solaris Blackout Setup - anything to be aware of?
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2011, 06:41:03 AM »
Dizzy, Stacked Leverage is probably the reason it was sold, that drilling on the Trailblazer core would make it stand-up at 30 feet and roll-out on anything but Medium or Heavier oil, although this ball has a lower Diff # than the Pearl Solaris, it is a Solid and will pick up in the heads sooner.


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Re: Solaris Blackout Setup - anything to be aware of?
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2011, 07:04:13 AM »
Yo, still in Germany (I am native, just to avoid confusion!) in the Rhein Ruhr area.

 

Many thanks for your input and impressions!


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Re: Solaris Blackout Setup - anything to be aware of?
« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2011, 07:41:36 AM »
Dizzy, sorry for some reason I thought you were "living overseas" :)
 
Yes the core is low RG which will make it want to get into a roll early, the cover is very mellow, so although it will want to roll early, it will not grip the lane too early.  This is what makes it such a great controll ball.
 
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Re: Solaris Blackout Setup - anything to be aware of?
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2011, 08:56:16 AM »
Very smooth mid range ball.  a bit weak with carry down, on pro anvil lanes.
 
Has become my bench mark ball.  prior to that was using a polished gamebreaker.  Funny thing is 90% of my balls are Ebo.




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Re: Solaris Blackout Setup - anything to be aware of?
« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2011, 11:57:33 PM »
Had theball punched up on Saturday and made maiden flight on Sunday - unfortunately under heavy air humidity and a freaky back end. Nevertheless, I can confirm that the ball is very smooth at the breakpoint, and not as rolly as I expected due the low RG. It is also not a big hooker (not the type that comes back from anywhere when you spray it), it makes a neat curve, though. Seems to be a ball that likes revs - it is very stable in its breakpoint reaction. Length through the heads is, as far as I can tell, good: it is cleaner than my Renegade as a benchmark, and I think that the Blackout's cover is weaker/has less traction, so I'd call it a light to medium conditions ball - but it truly is NOT something for dry lanes.

 

I had best success playing up 10th board so far, keeping everything simple, but due to the high friction backend conclusions are hard to draw. I like what I see, but it will take more tests (and better weather!) to put up a review.


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Re: Solaris Blackout Setup - anything to be aware of?
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2011, 12:36:39 AM »
Review posted - good ball! First use in a local house (with no truly demanding oil pattern, though) resulted in a 658 3 series, right out of the bag. Sweet, smooth and simple!

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Re: Solaris Blackout Setup - anything to be aware of?
« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2011, 10:19:40 AM »
Nice review dizzyfungus .  right on the nail.. The ball can be swung tho, you just need low tilt and high rotation.
 
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Re: Solaris Blackout Setup - anything to be aware of?
« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2011, 08:06:26 PM »
Ambi1,
 
check out the drilling he used, 60 x 4.75" x 75. I think it would be hard for many people to have a ball with a core like the Blackout's make a hard turn or to swing it, unless they had a lot of tilt or a lot of rotation or both.
ambi1 wrote on 8/31/2011 10:19 AM:
Nice review dizzyfungus .  right on the nail.. The ball can be swung tho, you just need low tilt and high rotation.
 
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Re: Solaris Blackout Setup - anything to be aware of?
« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2011, 03:21:29 AM »
Yep, almost all of my stuff is drilled with a high angle sum, because I just need that extra length due to my high track and lower speed. It might be that the layout limits the core's potential with my standard release, but when I crank it up and add side rotation on purpose, I can hook the lane with it, esp. when there's enough friction.  

 

I have so far much success with the Blackout with lines aimed at 10th-13th board at the arrows out to 8th board, due to the smooth arc I get out of it. I just let friction "rule" and guide the ball, and this works very well with this piece.


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Re: Solaris Blackout Setup - anything to be aware of?
« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2011, 05:02:17 AM »
Just an addendum, because my Blackout saw its first "hot" use in league: lovely ball, with huge potential. I used it very effectively as a fallback option after the lane had been ridden down by player traffic (10 players on a  pair) on a medium sport shot. I had been starting with my Revolution Renegade, which was perfect for the fresh condition, but switched to the Blackout after the Renegade started to move ever earlier and stronger, so that hand position tricks or deeper lines were of no avail.

 

The Blackout is much easier through the heads than the Renegade's (assumed) PK18 cover, and with my setup it breaks slightly later and less abrupt. Similar amount of boards covered and entry angle, but with a much different reaction shape (">" vs.")" ) and with less need for head oil. Both make a good complementary combo.

 

Thumbs up for the Blackout!


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