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barcar

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Disturbed is stronger then my Marvel S
« on: August 16, 2014, 11:04:59 PM »
I recently picked up an almost new Disturbed(3games on it), and have it drilled exactly the same as my Marvel S, with both being at OOB surfaces.
Granted I only have about 10 games on the Disturbed, but I am seeing it being about 3 boards stronger then my Marvel S.
I bought the Disturbed to be my step down from the Marvel S, now I am confused, which one is going to be the step down ball.
Any one else see this being the case?
Thanks for your help.

 

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Re: Disturbed is stronger then my Marvel S
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2014, 11:29:14 PM »
According to BTM, the Disturbed has an overall rating of 54 and the Marvel-S with 54.  Seeing that, you'd have to look at the core numbers.  With the Marvel-S at 2.48 RG/.050 Diff and the Disturbed at 2.50 RG/.043 Diff means that the Disturbed's lower differential will read earlier and will probably give you something that is slightly stronger than the Marvel-S.

Honestly, I don't see either being a true step down unless you change one to a different layout (have one pin down/one pin up) and/or change the surface.
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Re: Disturbed is stronger then my Marvel S
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2014, 11:39:26 PM »
With the same drilling my S is smoother off the spot, I see way less movement.  I believe it. 
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Re: Disturbed is stronger then my Marvel S
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2014, 11:46:06 PM »
Well that sucks that they are both that close to the same numbers, that would explain what I am seeing. Thanks for the feedback, I picked up the Disturbed for $50, but after what I am seeing I should have gone with the IQ Fusion, like I had thought about.

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Re: Disturbed is stronger then my Marvel S
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2014, 11:52:03 PM »
billdozer i agree the S is much smoother.
It seems the Disturbed starts up pretty much right off my hand.

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Re: Disturbed is stronger then my Marvel S
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2014, 01:25:52 PM »
The centripetal core is designed to get you predictable motion on fresher patterns.  I struggle with that core when moving left.  I use it solely on fresher patterns that I can't figure out, when I need to play up the boards.  I call that line, ’the norm duke line' as when I am using, I am usually playing where norm plays.
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Re: Disturbed is stronger then my Marvel S
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2014, 09:19:53 PM »
i would take the surface of the disturbed up and possibly polish it or add a P1 hole if possible

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Re: Disturbed is stronger then my Marvel S
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2014, 11:33:56 PM »
I was thinking about adding polish to it or seeing if my local pro shop would be interested in working a deal for something else.

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Re: Disturbed is stronger then my Marvel S
« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2014, 11:37:57 PM »
The same thing happened with the wrecker, it was way more ball than people 'wanted,' I embraced it, felt like I got a uppermid price reaction for a low end price.  I just bought my second as my original wrecker has too many games on it. 
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Re: Disturbed is stronger then my Marvel S
« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2014, 10:38:15 AM »
According to BTM, the Disturbed has an overall rating of 54 and the Marvel-S with 54.  Seeing that, you'd have to look at the core numbers.  With the Marvel-S at 2.48 RG/.050 Diff and the Disturbed at 2.50 RG/.043 Diff means that the Disturbed's lower differential will read earlier and will probably give you something that is slightly stronger than the Marvel-S.

Honestly, I don't see either being a true step down unless you change one to a different layout (have one pin down/one pin up) and/or change the surface.

A lower differential means that the ball has less potential flare, thus in theory, less potential hook. A lower differential ball will also have the flare rings closer and tighter together, and retain it's axis migration longer.

The only reason that a bowler may have the Disturbed "stronger" than a Marvel S is because the Disturbed has a lower grit factory finish of 2000 abralon;  the Marvel S is at 3000 abralon.

The cover on the Marvel S is stronger, and the core is stronger. If a bowler is seeing a Disturbed with the same cover preparation cover more boards than a Marvel S, than it is do to the Marvel S slowing down too quickly. Board coverage doesn't always equate to "strength" of a ball. Often times, a stronger ball will cover less boards, and appear "weaker" because it slows down earlier than a ball with a less responsive cover on it. Storm seems to design their "strong" balls to hook early and offer more control on the lane, not necessarily cover a ton of boards.
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