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jfvstorm5

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fire road coverstock
« on: January 07, 2013, 12:44:12 AM »
anyone else see it get insanely oily fast? and almost reacts like a pearl urethane cover?

 

J_Mac

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Re: fire road coverstock
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2013, 01:10:35 AM »
anyone else see it get insanely oily fast? and almost reacts like a pearl urethane cover?

Local shop has noticed that some new equipment, Storm included, gets a "slimy" feel to it after a few frames right out of the box. He'll commonly use a light scuff of a gold scotchbrite pad to break the surface of a ball that he considers to be over polished.

He will also use a heavy duty cleaner to try to remove whatever is on the surface of the ball that seems to repel the lane conditioners.  We think it is something used in the finishing process to improve shelf appeal rather than performance.

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Re: fire road coverstock
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2013, 08:23:04 AM »
Yes I have noticed this with the Fire Road in particular.  I have drilled a couple that never really hooked at all.  There is no way those balls were the same R2X Pearl that was on the Marvel Pearl.  I took one of them back and refunded the customer's $$ towards a different ball.

Really disappointed with that ball right now....probably just going to sell the last one I have in stock on ebay to get rid of it.

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Re: fire road coverstock
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2013, 10:37:54 AM »
i throw it one shot with the surface freshly cleanned and dry and it hooks the entire lane and from anywhere, after two more shots it gets all greasy and oily and never moves.. i was literally able to move my line from 35-7 out to 12-6 just after a couple shots. the mechanic came up to me and told me i should wipe my ball off every shot because its getting stuck in the back and just keeps spinning and wont get picked up by the belt. it really reminds me of the reaction i would have gotten from a natural pearl if it were to be modified to be in the thunder line. out of the box the ball wasnt that tacky either. never seen this before on a ball and i work in a shot and see the textures and feels of just about every new release.

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Re: fire road coverstock
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2013, 10:52:01 AM »
Not liking to hear this right now......I just drilled one for a customer. 

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Re: fire road coverstock
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2013, 11:00:36 AM »
Its definitely one of those love hate balls. To me the r2x is a really strong cover, i could see it transitioning too fast on some conditions and being better on sport....

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Re: fire road coverstock
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2013, 11:14:46 AM »
Its definitely one of those love hate balls. To me the r2x is a really strong cover, i could see it transitioning too fast on some conditions and being better on sport....

The issue is that this isn't the same R2X that was on the Marvel Pearl.  There is no way that a core tweak can make 15-18 BOARDS of difference downlane on a symmetrical.  This ball rolls like strong urethane after a couple of games.

jfvstorm5

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Re: fire road coverstock
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2013, 11:42:10 AM »
exactly, strong urethane.. but what could they have possibly done to do that to the r2x cover? its like it has a built in simple green film on it... which is very strange because i absolutely love storm and thats all i throw. mainly because i get soo much reaction and longetivity out of their covers.. would like to get to the bottom of this one.. because i loved the prodigy and 2D and their cover was r2x with their special ETM(enhanced traction mica) and that ball never got a bit oily.. i have had 3 prodigys and the most recent one has atleast 300 games on it.

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Re: fire road coverstock
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2013, 12:19:35 PM »
The only cover I've ever experienced anything like you're saying was the cover from the bank roll and train. It was huge in fresh then like 5 frames later wouldn't get back going straight up 5..... Never really figured it out and the only answer i ever got was maintenance issue which i don't think was the problem....but it was the same both balls with that cover....

jfvstorm5

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Re: fire road coverstock
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2013, 01:12:00 PM »
okay.. well i know for a 100% fact it has nothing to do with not keeping up with mantainence. in total it has about 6 games on it, and after three shots its insanely oily where nothing else does and it has nothing to do with the lanes. i drilled a couple for a few friends and i saw the same thing but didnt realize how bad until i drilled one myself.

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Re: fire road coverstock
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2013, 01:20:10 PM »
Sounds exactly like urethane. Any Storm staffers aware of any coverstock issues, like a bad batch perhaps?

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Re: fire road coverstock
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2013, 02:33:12 PM »
yup.. hoping someone from storm mentions something.. or a staffer has the same issue.. i know there have been bad batches of balls, but for how long of a period of time?

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Re: fire road coverstock
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2013, 02:38:34 PM »
My mate just got a fire road 2 weeks ago and it makes so move at all. His freeze even outhooks it on oil and I am not confusing hook with backend. It literally goes 60 feet. I may buy one just to use as a "urethane pearl" for when the lanes get bone dry.
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Re: fire road coverstock
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2013, 02:45:31 PM »
it revs up soon and fast, and just about holds the line with very little skid out, but holds
the line dead straight.  flares fine, nothing with the core, something about the coverstock id hope to have an answer about and everyone else here

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Re: fire road coverstock
« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2013, 03:44:30 PM »
Is this on the OOB finish or after the polish has been scuffed? Sounds like Storm finished with too much polish on a couple of batches. One of my teammates has the Fire Road and it hooks a ton without getting slimy like y'all make it sound.