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Nicanor

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Anyone else having limited success with the Invasion?
« on: February 14, 2010, 01:51:56 AM »
That was putting it lightly.

I tried it box, sanded and polished on long oil and short oil and no luck to date.  I even took it out of my practice bag.  I'll try it again, maybe, but it didn't replace the Virtual Gravity likee I thought it would.

I have two Virtual Gravities and threw a 300 with both and both read the lane better and carry better then the Invasion.

Maybe getting more games on the Invasion will help and I'll continue to work with the surface, but to date, I'm not having much success with the Invasion.


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Re: Anyone else having limited success with the Invasion?
« Reply #46 on: March 01, 2010, 09:57:25 PM »
Well the only guy I have seen throw this ball has shot his 32nd and 33rd 300 with it. His is drilled stacked. He plays up the track with decent hand and speed. Our shot is 42ft with a 10-2 ratio. I  don't know if thats heavy oil or not, but he is scoring well with it.

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Re: Anyone else having limited success with the Invasion?
« Reply #47 on: March 01, 2010, 10:36:56 PM »
the only way shops are getting the invasions for 85 bucks is if they attend a storm seminar where they are featuring that ball..   as for my shop, we are selling the invasion for 195 drilled including inserts and thumb solid....   the last time i looked the invasion was going for 131.95 from our dist....


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Re: Anyone else having limited success with the Invasion?
« Reply #48 on: March 01, 2010, 10:38:28 PM »
I don't have a single problem with my invasion or the layout on it. Its all in your release, the surface you bowl on, and the amount of oil they put out. I have a double thumb layout on mine.. and I have never seen it not hook like the above posters, its . Its not for everyone. Letsbowl... not even worth my time.. Grumpy old man!
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Nicanor

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Re: Anyone else having limited success with the Invasion?
« Reply #49 on: March 02, 2010, 07:54:43 AM »
I'm following the response to the post and appreciate most of the feedback.

But I'm still not having very much success with the Invasion.  Tried it at two different houses and at different times.  One house I use a Megaton or the VG and average 216.  Not so lucky with the Invasion.  Not stating the ball is not as adverised or that most people have success with the ball, I'm just struggling.  Right now I'm throwing a C-System 3.5 along side the Invasion and I'm having much better success with the 3.5 and I'm not even a Brunswick guy.

I have an email into Storm to see if making my balance hole bigger or/and deeper will give me a little more reaction.

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Re: Anyone else having limited success with the Invasion?
« Reply #50 on: March 03, 2010, 04:40:22 AM »
i will say that the invasion is NOT a vg at all. Also it is very drill sensitive surface will help. Try it at 500 if too much hit 4000 ontop of the 500, skip the 1000 and 2000.

Now as far as money goes shops dont get theses balls for 85 unless like said from a seminar, the 85 may be what staff members get them for but not pro shops. and if your saying as a pro shop i can get them for 85 please send me the info on the suppliers who will sell it to me that cheap. Then we can all sell the ball for 170 drilled out the door
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Re: Anyone else having limited success with the Invasion?
« Reply #51 on: March 04, 2010, 08:18:45 AM »
One of the first things that I try to explain to a customer when they tell me they want a TON of HOOK, and want the big hook monster, is that todays balls need to be gauged with front to back hook, NOT left to right hook. Big cores with strong covers, and high flare drillings, don't want to skid out to the 5 board from 4th arrow, and then bounce back. They are doing all they can NOT to do this, as they are designed for large volumes of oil, and straighter angles through the front. If you want a ball for this type of reaction, you need to go with a weaker ball, something that will save more energy down lane for a stronger change of direction.

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Re: Anyone else having limited success with the Invasion?
« Reply #52 on: March 05, 2010, 09:03:03 AM »
Tommy I like your answer and it makes sense even to me.  Can you or someone who has more knowledge then me give me a couple of ball recommendations?  I'm drilling a Reign now, but don't even know it that will work.




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tommygn

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Re: Anyone else having limited success with the Invasion?
« Reply #53 on: March 05, 2010, 01:20:46 PM »
Nicanor,

I would need a few stats from you as far as PAP, rev rate, ball speed (I would need to know if speed is at release or down lane), Axis rotation, and tilt. I would also like to know what surface you are bowling on (DBA, HPL, ProAnvil lane, wood, guardian, etc..) and also the length of the pattern (and what part of the lane you like to play would also be beneficial). With these different items, I would be able to give you a better recommendation of what ball in the line up would match up best for you and your desired ball motion.

Also, a video would help.
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Re: Anyone else having limited success with the Invasion?
« Reply #54 on: March 05, 2010, 03:26:13 PM »
Out of box I could use it to pick up the 7 pin (left handed) then I polished it up on a ball spinner first with reacta shine then extender polish on top of it then wow lots of hook but to much length. Ball is drilled 4x4x2 I am a slow stroker. I was wondering should I take the ball down to 2000 then polish. need suggestions thanks.

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Re: Anyone else having limited success with the Invasion?
« Reply #55 on: March 15, 2010, 08:40:06 AM »
Just wanted to give a little update on mine. I shot 805 with it yesterday! My games were 290, 257 & 258. The combination of this ball and drilling (double thumb) have been absolute money for me!

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Re: Anyone else having limited success with the Invasion?
« Reply #56 on: March 15, 2010, 09:13:23 AM »
quote:
Just wanted to give a little update on mine. I shot 805 with it yesterday! My games were 290, 257 & 258. The combination of this ball and drilling (double thumb) have been absolute money for me!


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