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toomanytenpins

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is my fast dead
« on: November 04, 2009, 11:21:33 PM »
I know its a pearl and i dont believe its an oil soaker. my intent for it was for drier and short oil. Up until last night it was fitting the bill and then some. Last night,I dont care what i did it went 60 feet .I was so suprised to see this because like i say it had been phenomenal.I was using it in conjunction with my magic and the fast was only a 5 board move from the magic which would keep me from playing to far left when the lanes got to dry.
    Last night though the fast wouldn't turn the corner. If i got it to face it left a 10 pin. I ended up having to try and force the magic to hold pocket and it was ,not a good night. About a 15 board difference instead of 5 and the reaction on the fast was non existent. I have only been using it for a month it may have 20 games on it. I have soaked it in hot water once and clean it as i use it.
   Is it just another storm flash in the pan so you buy another one like the vg or could there be something i am missing.
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Dan Belcher

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Re: is my fast dead
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2009, 07:26:59 AM »
No ball is going to just suddenly die in one week (unless it cracks, in which case I guess you could consider that true ball death!).  Especially considering the R2S coverstock, which does soak up oil, but not that badly.  It's very likely that the lanes were just different last night.  Maybe you didn't have as much friction down-lane as before.  With a higher RG, lower diff ball, plus a polished pearl surface, you need friction in the front and back parts of the lane for the ball to shine.  Or perhaps you need to put a fresh surface on the ball -- knock the polish off and reshine it.  But I highly doubt that it just up and died.  I've been throwing the hell out of my Reign recently, which also has the R2S Pearl coverstock like the Fast, and it hasn't lost any reaction yet.
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Re: is my fast dead
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2009, 07:33:39 AM »

If it was only one night then my guess is that the lane conditions were different (carry-down, etc.).

Any reactive ball will absorb oil. If you've got around 60 games on it then find a shop with a Revivor and have the oil extracted and a light resurface done.

Sorry, but the hot water method is better than nothing, but it doesn't get much out. We routinely have balls bleed oil for 4 hours and more in the Revivor. No one is going to keep the water warm enough, and change it frequently enough to do a thorough job.

We sell tons of Storm, and Roto Grip equipment here in Utah and their coverstocks respond very well to the above mentioned process. At worst case scenario your ball needs some maintenance, but I don't believe that it's dead for a second. Good luck.




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Re: is my fast dead
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2009, 07:41:26 AM »
You need to take the ball back to OOB or at least repolish as a hot water bath alone will not due the trick in restoring reaction. Simple way to due it is 1000 grit abralon and then Reacta Shine polish which will get you close. Or you can do what Storm does for OOB that has been gone over in other post. Wear and tear from use breaks down the polish and grit levels. A good rule of thumb is to repolish about every 21 games but can very depending on the bowler and conditions bowled on.
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Re: is my fast dead
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2009, 07:52:56 AM »
why give it a "hot water bath" for just 20games?!?!?!?!  the ball is hardly broken in.....
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Re: is my fast dead
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2009, 12:06:09 PM »
@tc300 - don't forget he bathed his ball that he throws on dirt. There's no oil soaking into a ball you grab when the lanes are dry. LOL
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Re: is my fast dead
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2009, 12:09:43 AM »
Sounds like LOFT.....to me.

Probably just oiler than normal.
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Re: is my fast dead
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2009, 01:23:12 AM »
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Probably just oiler than normal.
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I'm willing to bet the laneman decided to put down a heavier volume of oil that night just to mess with people. The laneman where i bowl at does this once in a while hitting the wrong program.
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Re: is my fast dead
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2009, 08:49:52 AM »
Either the lanes were different or the ball needs to be repolished.  Especially if the lane surface is high friction, the polish eventually burns off and the ball starts to hook earlier and lose downlane reaction.  Did the bad reaction start before or after the hot water bath ??

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tc300

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Re: is my fast dead
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2009, 01:16:08 PM »
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@tc300 - don't forget he bathed his ball that he throws on dirt. There's no oil soaking into a ball you grab when the lanes are dry. LOL


yeah thats excatly what i was thinkn... maybe his fast is burning up????? lmfao!!
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Re: is my fast dead
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2009, 03:45:23 PM »
ive put 50-60 games on it, on med-light conditions and have lost nothing but this ball will not hook much on alot of carrydown. could be you got the lanes with some major carrydown just chalk it up as a bad night. have you thrown it again since this night?
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toomanytenpins

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Re: is my fast dead
« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2009, 07:10:25 AM »
since my last post i gave the ball another bath. my release was kind.  A off i guess you could say. Although i haven't played it in the house i had complained about i did see a good improvement in reaction from wed to fri night .Now mind you ,i was referencing prior outings with the ball and judging reactions of this ball and other balls i was throwing,dont know if you guys caught that i was using my magic in conjunction with the fast, and as i was moving left with magic i was moving right with fast. Anyway as i was saying i bathed it again and had a much better look and reaction. So I guess i just have to keep it clean and watch my release. Thanx to all.
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Re: is my fast dead
« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2009, 10:22:31 AM »
Sounds to me like you need a ball between the two. The magic and the fast are worlds apart. One wants to hooks a ton in the mids or as early as possible while the other saves more energy to the back. There might be a 5 board difference on your avg THS but add a little more oil to the back and they become night and day. That's my recommendation.
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