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Title: Is Storm being Poured By Global?
Post by: offthesheet on May 29, 2014, 11:25:00 PM
Is Storm being Poured By Global?
Title: Re: Is Storm being Poured By Global?
Post by: SVstar34 on May 29, 2014, 11:31:57 PM
No, Storm pours their own stuff and now have the rights to use Globals plant in San Antonio to meet their demand numbers
Title: Re: Is Storm being Poured By Global?
Post by: MI 2 AZ on May 30, 2014, 01:48:33 AM
So are they currently using the San Antonio plant to pour Storm balls?
Title: Re: Is Storm being Poured By Global?
Post by: BallReviews-Removed0385 on May 30, 2014, 04:14:36 AM

They are using both plants.  Storm was using the San Antonio plant for a few years for their Tropicals, but now has a need for more production and is using it on a much more expanded basis.  Everything poured there for Storm is using Storm's materials.

Read between the lines...  Storm is being poured by Storm at their San Antonio plant.

Title: Re: Is Storm being Poured By Global?
Post by: charlest on May 30, 2014, 05:42:45 AM

They are using both plants.  Storm was using the San Antonio plant for a few years for their Tropicals, but now has a need for more production and is using it on a much more expanded basis.  Everything poured there for Storm is using Storm's materials.

Read between the lines...  Storm is being poured by Storm at their San Antonio plant.

This seems to beg the question:
Like Faball making their balls at different plants around the country, supposedly using the same materials, resulted in those balls reacting differently,
will the environment at San Antonio plant make the balls manufactured (and cured) there react differently from the ones made in Utah??

(Aside: Do the balls made in SA have a different code than the ones made in Utah?
and will there be any way to tell where they are made, like on the label of the box?)
Title: Re: Is Storm being Poured By Global?
Post by: Track_Fanatic on May 30, 2014, 06:04:31 AM
I'm hoping there will be a different coding for the different plants.  I certainly would not want a ball that comes out of the SA plant based on my experiences with balls coming out of there. I'm hoping we can specify when ordering. 

Does anyone know if they are using SA for specific pieces or both plants creating the same stuff?
Title: Re: Is Storm being Poured By Global?
Post by: itsallaboutme on May 30, 2014, 06:16:05 AM
Nobody has been able to tell the difference in where the balls have come from yet, so why worry about it.  It's not like this is something new.  Some Storm balls have been manufactured by Global for a while now.  It just became public knowledge when Mr. Chrisman made an investment to keep the doors unlocked and his production capacity what it was.
Title: Re: Is Storm being Poured By Global?
Post by: Track_Fanatic on May 30, 2014, 06:33:52 AM
You can tell by the serial numbers from what I recall.  Yes, I do worry about it. I may be the only one but I have reasonable cause.  Until you start losing hundreds to a few thousands of dollars of hard earned money because of stuff coming out of that plant, you would worry too. 
Title: Re: Is Storm being Poured By Global?
Post by: Impending Doom on May 30, 2014, 06:40:11 AM
Nothing poured in Utah cracks ever. I promise.
Title: Re: Is Storm being Poured By Global?
Post by: Track_Fanatic on May 30, 2014, 07:13:35 AM
Nothing poured in Utah cracks ever. I promise.

Doom- I understand your sarcasm and it is funny(seriously).  However, once you have multiple and I do mean multiple BAD experiences from any manufacturer/plant would you seriously continue to drop money on their equipment?  This will probably be a kiss of death but I have yet to have any other equipment crack other than the stuff coming out of SA. 
Title: Re: Is Storm being Poured By Global?
Post by: Track_Fanatic on May 30, 2014, 07:20:36 AM
Let me add though, they have been great with replacing equipment and have good customer service. 
Title: Re: Is Storm being Poured By Global?
Post by: ccrider on May 30, 2014, 07:52:01 AM
Let me add though, they have been great with replacing equipment and have good customer service. 

I would say the same thing. I have ordered online from a California based company and have had 2 balls crack with the latest being a fusion. I drilled a Mastermind and a Steslth Bomber Pearl at the same time and have had zero problems out of them. I am wondering if the Storm balls came from the different plant. The only 900 Global ball I owned cracked. It was a bank roll.

Storm's customer service was great, but I am a bit hesitant about buying a zero gravity because of the problems.
Title: Re: Is Storm being Poured By Global?
Post by: Impending Doom on May 30, 2014, 07:53:58 AM
I've had more balls than I can shake a stick at crack coming out of KY, much more than any ball rolling out of San Antonio. Since 09/07, I can tell you how first drill balls I've had crack on me.

0, and at last count, I've punched 22, between amf and 900. Only ones I've had crack came from multiple plug jobs in the fingers, which is expected.

I'm sorry you've had a rough time with the equipment, but I can tell what your post is going to be before I even read it if it's pertaining to anything San Antonio based. Maybe the Storm whatever it is will remedy things. Maybe more storms will crack now. Maybe  I'll find metal shavings in my Brunswick ball due to poor factory management. Maybe my Ebonite ball will die in 50 games.

If you don't want to spend your money, that's fine. Continuing to bemoan the fact in every post is tiresome, and doesn't really do anything.
Title: Re: Is Storm being Poured By Global?
Post by: Impending Doom on May 30, 2014, 07:55:43 AM
Let me add though, they have been great with replacing equipment and have good customer service. 

I would say the same thing. I have ordered online from a California based company and have had 2 balls crack with the latest being a fusion. I drilled a Mastermind and a Steslth Bomber Pearl at the same time and have had zero problems out of them. I am wondering if the Storm balls came from the different plant. The only 900 Global ball I owned cracked. It was a bank roll.

Storm's customer service was great, but I am a bit hesitant about buying a zero gravity because of the problems.

He was speaking about 900 Globals customer service, I believe.
Title: Re: Is Storm being Poured By Global?
Post by: billdozer on May 30, 2014, 08:01:59 AM
The fact that Chrisman is willing to pour his stuff there shows that he is not worried about 'said issues.' I think that is a good way to think about it.
Title: Re: Is Storm being Poured By Global?
Post by: 3835 on May 30, 2014, 10:15:25 AM
Ccrider,

Glad you have not had any issues with the Stealth Bomber Pearl. Want to know why? Global pours for Lane 1......so you already own a Global/Storm poured ball.

3835
Title: Re: Is Storm being Poured By Global?
Post by: tommygn on May 30, 2014, 11:14:58 AM
Doom- I understand your sarcasm and it is funny(seriously).  However, once you have multiple and I do mean multiple BAD experiences from any manufacturer/plant would you seriously continue to drop money on their equipment?  This will probably be a kiss of death but I have yet to have any other equipment crack other than the stuff coming out of SA. 

Track_Fanatic,

I am curious if you have been using the same pro shop, and have drilled different manufactures equipment over the same time period, that wasn't a San Antonio pour, without incident? often times, cracked bowling balls comes from the press operator drilling too fast, or bits not being sharpened often enough. Also, lack of sufficient bevel between holes and inserts, and holes and slugs, also can cause issues. If there is a slight issue with the covers, or cores coming out of San Antonio, then an over zealous ball driller with dull bits can magnify the situation.

Also, when you talk cracking, or you talking about the hairline cracks that form around fingers and thumbs, or the larger "divide" cracks that jet away from the fingers or thumb?