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lane1baller

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Nano Questions
« on: April 11, 2011, 11:27:58 AM »
Nano labors in heavy oil any suggestions.

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AMF HPL LANES 45 FT THS


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bighook69

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Re: Nano Questions
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2011, 08:06:41 PM »
OOB surface prep is 4K, put some surface on it, suggest something like 2K for starters. I don't really know what else to tell you, mine is great on oil.

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tommyboy74

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Re: Nano Questions
« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2011, 08:19:12 PM »

Mine was a little over/under with the 4000 OOB finish originally.  I ended up sanding it with 2000AB and then a light hand sanding at 4000.  The 2000 really helped the cover out a lot and gave me a much better reaction to where I really enjoy using it.



My arsenal


Heavy Oil: Storm Virtual Gravity Nano: 4000 AB

Medium-Heavy Oil: Still to be determined

Medium Oil: Roto Grip Nomad Dagger: 1500 polished


Medium-Light Oil: Roto Grip Rising Star: 1500 polished
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tommygn

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Re: Nano Questions
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2011, 05:21:45 AM »
Add more surface to your ball, 2000 or maybe 1000.


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LanemasterLefty

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Re: Nano Questions
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2011, 05:40:18 AM »
I just picked up a Nano to bring to Nationals next month..  Would you recommend bringing it down to 2000 from 4000 for an up the boards stroker with about a rev rate of 275-300 ?


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TheDude

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Re: Nano Questions
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2011, 06:05:31 AM »
We've taken this ball from 500grit with a fresh abralon pad for a stroker on the mexico city pattern to shined 4000 with a reacta shine or two coating and it worked for everyone so far. if the ball is"labouring" it might be loosing energy?

 

the box finish at 4000 and then trying to reproduce the 4000 on a spinner gave me different results, the OOB for me felt little closer to a 2000 grit pad.


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LaSalle, Quebec-Located inside Pont Mercier Lanes.
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BuddiesProShopcom-Chris

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Re: Nano Questions
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2011, 09:27:31 AM »
The oil pattern is to long for that layout. The ball is burned up before the end of the pattern

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avabob

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Re: Nano Questions
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2011, 08:58:50 AM »
Box condition Nano will burn off energy very quick off the break point with the result in flat 10's.  This is especially a problem for guys who like to cover a lot of boards on a house shot.  Not sure what you can do to the surface to alleviate this problem other than high polish, which will cause over/under on house shots.  I like my Nano better on flatter longer tourney patterns for carry.


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MK

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Re: Nano Questions
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2011, 05:41:17 PM »
I have the same issue with my nano.

 

So, is the consenus to go to 2,000?   It sounds like there are a few of you saying that 2,000 will give more hook but it will also cause it to loose revs by the time it hits the pins. 

 

Is that what everybody is saying?

 

Thanks

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tommyboy74

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Re: Nano Questions
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2011, 07:04:14 PM »
OOB, I was leaving flat 10's playing straighter.  Covering more boards by swinging, I had initial over/under with the reaction.  By taking it to 2000, I got more out of the backend which helped solve the flat 10 issue.  It also helped solve the initial over/under issue that I had with covering more boards.  The cover is really good with surface changes so feel free to experiment with it.  2000 on the spinner followed by a really light 4000 by hand got it exactly where I want it: a strong arc that is controllable while reading the midlane well  and hitting the pins hard with good carry.
 


My arsenal


Heavy Oil: Storm Virtual Gravity Nano: 4000 AB

Medium-Heavy Oil: Still to be determined

Medium Oil: Roto Grip Nomad Dagger: 1500 polished


Medium-Light Oil: Roto Grip Rising Star: 1500 polished
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MOTIV Trident Odyssey
MOTIV Forge Fire
MOTIV Covert Revolt

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MOTIV VIP ExJ Sigma
MOTIV Sigma Sting
MOTIV Pride Solid

Medium-Light
MOTIV Venom Shock
MOTIV Tribal Fire

CHawk15

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Re: Nano Questions
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2011, 02:10:16 PM »
That's what I did to mine as well and it seemed much better afterwards. 


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jrs813

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Re: Nano Questions
« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2011, 11:23:33 PM »
I recently drilled my nano.  with only a few shots thrown i noticed alot of over under.  i had read this thread before i bought it. my question now is how hard did you hit yours with the 2000 pad, how much if any water on the pad, then how hard with the 4000 pad.  thanks in advance for any and all replies.


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BowlersDeals

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Re: Nano Questions
« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2011, 05:01:49 PM »
Buddies hit the nail on the head.  Longer pins and a bit smoother covers have worked great on the Nanos we've drilled in our centers that have HPL surfaces.

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tommyboy74

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Re: Nano Questions
« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2011, 03:13:57 PM »
To get it to 2000, here is what I did (based on factory specs):
 

1) Using 500 Abralon or Siaair, go firm on all 4 sides of the ball for 30 secs.

2) Using 2000 Abralon or Siaair, go light on all 4 sides for 10 secs.

 

It's best if you have a spinner to do this but can easily be done by hand.  I didn't do any wet sanding with it.  After hitting the ball with 2000, I did use Storm Reacta Clean to clean it up. 

 

For a while, I was hitting it really light with 4000 (5 secs on all 4 sides) but decided to leave it at 2000 after I liked the results.  Just make sure whenever throwing the Nano, I find longer oil/heavier volumes work out best.   Usually when I am at 2 of the houses I like to bowl at (43ft heavy volume at 1, 45ft Route 66 at the other), the Nano comes out first.  After that, I then progress down to the Anarchy, Nomad Dagger, or Rising Star depending on conditions.


My arsenal


Heavy Oil: Storm Virtual Gravity Nano: 2000 AB
Medium-Heavy Oil: Storm Anarchy: 1500 polished
Medium Oil: Roto Grip Nomad Dagger: 1500 polished

Medium-Light Oil: Roto Grip Rising Star: 1500 polished
 
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Current Ball Arsenal
Heavy:
MOTIV Jackal Legacy
MOTIV Mythic Jackal

Med-Heavy:
MOTIV Trident Odyssey
MOTIV Forge Fire
MOTIV Covert Revolt

Medium:
MOTIV VIP ExJ Sigma
MOTIV Sigma Sting
MOTIV Pride Solid

Medium-Light
MOTIV Venom Shock
MOTIV Tribal Fire

Rrichardson

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Re: Nano Questions
« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2011, 09:40:34 PM »
 For what it's worth, I've been using a Nano since they first came out. I loved the oob finish until it was time for it's first tune up. Seems for me, the ball now works really well for about 6-9 games after touching up the coverstock, if I've been playing in heavy oil. What I've read about this ball being high maintenance is absolutely true for me. Even though they say it has a 4000 abralon finish, I've read somewhere where it had been checked and was actually under 1000. Seems they use 500 grit abralon on the ball and briefly and lightly hit it with 4000 just to round the peaks a bit. I just took mine off the spinner and left it at 500, hoping it does better in heavy oil. I agree with the above post. Seems my nano also labors in heavy oil. Contradictory to what's supposed to happen, it seems I get better back end reaction using my nano on med to med/light shots when it appears it's burning up it's energy through the front and middle.... Something is definitely different about this ball, but I love it, most of the time!

I'd love to hear what others have tried for surface with a nano and their results...I've noticed not many of the pros are currently throwing them since it's big debut.

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