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lefty50

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Phaze II - Yes or no?
« on: February 25, 2017, 03:37:05 PM »
I'll be the first to admit that there appear to be a LOT of good balls out there right now, making the value choice enough tougher than normal. Phaze II looks good on paper for my game. I would guess it's a step down from Alpha Crux and/or No Rules, with a strong back end (that's what I'm looking for). I need to change from early and smooth to later and stronger, like the Vandal I just picked up (nice ball). However, although I like what I hear, I bowled against another lefty with a Phaze and felt sorry for the poor guy wasting his money on that piece of junk. It's scared me away from the Phaze II right now, but should it? I'll take positive feedback of course, but really looking for the negative feedback, cuz I'm not hearing any...
Thoughts on it's value for a low rev lefty straight up the boards and/or minimal bend, and/or compared to original Vandal are appreciated!

 

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Re: Phaze II - Yes or no?
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2017, 04:02:36 PM »
Just my .02 here, but I bowled next to a lefty the other night that was using the Phaze, bowled straight up with low revs identicle to what you say your looking for. He bowled a nice set with that ball. Not all those are garbage balls.
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Re: Phaze II - Yes or no?
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2017, 04:41:20 PM »
Its a nice piece, I got mine drilled 4" pin. Ball is strong, one of the stronger balls I have thrown in a while. With this drill it reads the lane thru out for me, but has a nice continuos backend. I have seen longer pin balls change direction on the backend quicker than mine.

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Re: Phaze II - Yes or no?
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2017, 05:02:31 PM »
 The best way I can describe the Phaze II is a cleaner Marvel S, or a ball up from the IQ Tour (with a bit more punch).
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Re: Phaze II - Yes or no?
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2017, 05:39:42 PM »
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I'll be the first to admit that there appear to be a LOT of good balls out there right now, making the value choice enough tougher than normal. Phaze II looks good on paper for my game. I would guess it's a step down from Alpha Crux and/or No Rules, with a strong back end (that's what I'm looking for). I need to change from early and smooth to later and stronger, like the Vandal I just picked up (nice ball). However, although I like what I hear, I bowled against another lefty with a Phaze and felt sorry for the poor guy wasting his money on that piece of junk. It's scared me away from the Phaze II right now, but should it? I'll take positive feedback of course, but really looking for the negative feedback, cuz I'm not hearing any...
Thoughts on it's value for a low rev lefty straight up the boards and/or minimal bend, and/or compared to original Vandal are appreciated!

As a somewhat rev challenged speed dominant lefty, the top end of the bag is an Alpha Crux and the Phaze II.  I picked up the Phaze II because there was a big hole between that and the Code Black.  I was hesitant as I had a first batch Phaze that was less than awesome.  I am glad I did not let that turn me away as the Phaze II is my go to ball at the moment. It's super versatile for me as I can use it on both house and sport shots (Alpha is a no go on THS - pukes even for a low rev guy like me on house).  I'm glad I put one in my bag.

It's definitely a strong solid that has backend punch (even with some surface).  It's the best symmetrical solid i've ever thrown.

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Re: Phaze II - Yes or no?
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2017, 07:44:39 PM »
Thanks to all for the comments. I'm comfortable now. Lefty, you had more guts than I would have going with a Phaze II after your experience with the original, but glad to hear it worked out. I see one in my future now ahead of the Alpha Crux.Lefty, your game sounds just like mine. I have a follow up question.. Can you tell me your rough layout and are you up the boards or bending it?

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Re: Phaze II - Yes or no?
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2017, 09:06:37 PM »
Going as straight and as fast as possible is my A game - somewhat like where Parker Bohn is at right now - with a rev rate maybe 50 rpm lower than him - in the 275-300 range (and obviously no where near the versatility he has).

Layout on the Phaze II is very aggressive.  In terms of dual angles the Phaze II is XX x 4 x 30 with a p3-ish hole.  The small VAL angle gives it a very quick response and transition from hook to roll.  I also have changed the surface - I keep it at 2000 for house shots and 1000 for sport shots.  I am very pleased with how it has worked out so far.

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Re: Phaze II - Yes or no?
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2017, 09:36:01 PM »
Got it, thanks! Small VAL is what I use currently also. Looking forward to this one now.

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Re: Phaze II - Yes or no?
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2017, 12:40:31 PM »
How does the Phaze II compare to the Optimus Solid?
If I have an Optimus Solid would the Phaze II simply be redundant (but with a more delicious scent)?

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Re: Phaze II - Yes or no?
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2017, 01:02:04 PM »
How does the Phaze II compare to the Optimus Solid?
If I have an Optimus Solid would the Phaze II simply be redundant (but with a more delicious scent)?

IMO, Phaze II looks infinitely better than the Optimus Solid. Less early motion and better continuation downland.

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Re: Phaze II - Yes or no?
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2017, 09:40:19 PM »
I had to post this as the visual is easier to support.  This is a strong ball and has no characteristics I can recall with the initial Phaze.  This cover seems to do wonders showing off the core's strength.   It has a lot of motion down lane.  Not sure it's an obvious step down Alpha Crux or No Rules.  I would consider it more of a very strong symmetric option so if you want a different more continuous, consistent shape when the Alpha or No Rules are rolling out.  So it may cover very similar boards, but with a bit of a different shape.
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Re: Phaze II - Yes or no?
« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2017, 08:41:11 AM »
I had to post this as the visual is easier to support.  This is a strong ball and has no characteristics I can recall with the initial Phaze.  This cover seems to do wonders showing off the core's strength.   It has a lot of motion down lane.  Not sure it's an obvious step down Alpha Crux or No Rules.  I would consider it more of a very strong symmetric option so if you want a different more continuous, consistent shape when the Alpha or No Rules are rolling out.  So it may cover very similar boards, but with a bit of a different shape.

I'm very intrigued to see how it compares to the Dare Devil Trick and which has more down lane motion, etc.
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Re: Phaze II - Yes or no?
« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2017, 09:17:17 AM »
I had to post this as the visual is easier to support.  This is a strong ball and has no characteristics I can recall with the initial Phaze.  This cover seems to do wonders showing off the core's strength.   It has a lot of motion down lane.  Not sure it's an obvious step down Alpha Crux or No Rules.  I would consider it more of a very strong symmetric option so if you want a different more continuous, consistent shape when the Alpha or No Rules are rolling out.  So it may cover very similar boards, but with a bit of a different shape.

I'm very intrigued to see how it compares to the Dare Devil Trick and which has more down lane motion, etc.
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Re: Phaze II - Yes or no?
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2017, 12:23:54 PM »
Just drilled up a Phase ll to get a different look than my alpha crux.  The crux has a 3 inch pin that I put above the bridge.  The result was a ball that was very angular off the break point for a solid.  For the Phase II I chose a pin in ball and went down with it below the ring finger.  Out of the box this ball is earlier and smoother than the Crux.  Very roll . It almost reminds me of some of my old particle zones
  Like another poster said my crux always looks good but the carry can be abysmal when I chase the oil in on house shots.  Bowled a few games with the Phase on a broken down house shot and seemed to have a better reaction. I was able to go out to the dry with and get stronger continuation.   

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Re: Phaze II - Yes or no?
« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2017, 11:41:09 PM »
Phaze 2 is definitely worth the extra $50....I have heard nothing but positives especially after such an abysmal start with the first phaze.
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