Have a Phaze and Eternal Cell.  Normally my EC hooks more than my Phaze but tonight EC wasn't finishing on the back end well.  Switched to my Phaze and it worked way better.  Hooked more and finished harder.  Both balls are drilled with the pin above the ring finger.  Any input would be appreciated.

I was just wondering y one hooked more than the other thats all.  Which is ball supposed to hook more?

[the eternal cell was probably burning up and the weaker cover on the phaze let it be cleaner and backend a little more.
also as a side note, because the eternal cell is asymmetrical and the phaze is symmetrical the same layout will yield 2 different results. so the layout could also be contributing to the difference in reaction

There's your answer above. Cheech gave it to you! In layman's terms, there was not enough oil for the EC to be effective, but there was enough oil for the weaker cover of the Phaze.

So I guess the phaze has a weaker cover than the cell.  Wow these new balls are hard to understand.

Yea, it's a conundrum. 

Star, be nice... Whiz, I know what you mean. I'm fighting the same issue right now with a Revolt Havoc compared to an Optimus Solid. In the mind, stronger ball should hook more. In fact, you'll find LOTS of people who complain that the stronger ball hooks out of the house when there's not enough oil, right? So, when it hooks less, it doesn't make sense. Now, as mentioned above, the balls are different, so same layout does not = same comparison, but it's also true that, for you and I and others, strong ball on too little oil doesn't hook more, it burns up and looks weak.
IN GENERAL, EC is stronger and has more potential to hook on heavier volume than Phaze, which is definitely weaker. But on the right shot, it retains energy when the EC burns it up too soon. That's the tough part, what to buy for the condition you'll predominantly run into.
That's where surface changes can come in... I've never really been as successful with surface changes as I would have hoped....

Quote from: thewhiz on April 07, 2016, 04:58:01 PM

So I guess the phaze has a weaker cover than the cell.  Wow these new balls are hard to understand.

What's hard to understand? Pretty much everyone since the Phase came out has said that it was weaker than expected

The thing I find hard to understand is that the phaze is known to have a lot of midlane with little continuation on the back.

Yes phaze in really new and ec is older.  Could be the problem.