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pegleg42090

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Storm Reign Info
« on: May 18, 2009, 12:46:31 AM »
Don't know if anyone has seen this yet or not, so here it goes:

http://www.talktenpin.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3564&Itemid=127

 

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Re: Storm Reign Info
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2009, 08:56:14 AM »
Interesting.  In different thread had mentioned that the Fire Line was going away since there was too much overlap with the Thunder Line.  The new CAM weight block specs. are right in the middle of the Fire Twin-V and Thunder core.  Makes sense, but expect that many people will be sorry to see the thunder core go away.  Assuming the disappearance of the T-Roads (solid and pearl) the Hy-Road will be the only thunder core ball left.  Expect a solid and a hybrid version of the CAM core will ultimately replace.

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Re: Storm Reign Info
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2009, 02:46:06 PM »
I wonder why they will have both balls in the thunder line at 1500 grit polish

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Re: Storm Reign Info
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2009, 03:53:50 PM »
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I wonder why they will have both balls in the thunder line at 1500 grit polish


I've heard that Schlemmer says that over 90% of the PBA players change the OOB finish on their Storm equipment.  The factory finish isn't set in stone, you can tweak it to fit your needs.

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Re: Storm Reign Info
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2009, 08:38:39 PM »
I'm waiting to see the shape of that core.  I'm mostly bothered that the only thing separating the Thunder and Hot lines after the Street Rods are gone are cores.  Yeah there's a .010 difference in differential and .02 difference in rg(at 15lb), but for me I don't think I'd see a reason to spend the extra money on the stronger core.  That makes me think the purpose of the Hot line is just to provide performance at a good price point.  This is excluding the Natural of course.

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Re: Storm Reign Info
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2009, 08:55:29 PM »
The way storm sets up their lineup makes it really easy to go from ball to ball in my opinion.

The same or similar cover with simple modifications, and varying core strengths allow me to step up or down and find any reaction i could ever want...throw in the roto grip line up and what more could you ask for?  These upcoming releases for both brands are going to fill out the lineup, and replace the recently discontinued balls nicely.

Other companies may come up with fancy names for each coverstock, but trust me there is just as much overlap in their brands and in my opinion more so than storm.  Storm takes out the guesswork by not calling their covers, "cut throat flexer reactive plus super duper pearl w/ a particle suprise"


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Re: Storm Reign Info
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2009, 03:33:17 AM »
Well since they have it listed as the CAM core does this mean that it is the same core that is in the overseas rotogrip ball empire? The Empire has the cam core but it is an asymmetric core. Is it possible to see a asymmetric core in a non highend line or is this maybe a way to have storm tease and trick us?

http://rotogrip.com/products/balls/ball.asp?ballid=94

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Dave_in_Rio_Rancho

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Re: Storm Reign Info
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2009, 08:34:39 PM »
"Well since they have it listed as the CAM core does this mean that it is the same core that is in the overseas rotogrip ball empire? The Empire has the cam core but it is an asymmetric core. Is it possible to see a asymmetric core in a non highend line or is this maybe a way to have storm tease and trick us?

http://rotogrip.com/products/balls/ball.asp?ballid=94

Video of empire
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD_TH0XgXKQ&feature=sdig&et=1242551249.91"

Great question - I believe that Storm and Roto Grip are embracing their corporate partnership to enhance and sell both brands not to compete directly with each other - it could happen:} The Empire is currently not sold in the US.

Note - the specs for the current Empire show a lower Rg number compared to the new Storm ball.

Edited on 5/20/2009 8:55 PM

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Re: Storm Reign Info
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2009, 08:39:55 PM »
"Interesting. In different thread had mentioned that the Fire Line was going away since there was too much overlap with the Thunder Line. The new CAM weight block specs. are right in the middle of the Fire Twin-V and Thunder core. Makes sense, but expect that many people will be sorry to see the thunder core go away. Assuming the disappearance of the T-Roads (solid and pearl) the Hy-Road will be the only thunder core ball left. Expect a solid and a hybrid version of the CAM core will ultimately replace."

Note that Roto Grip is bringing out two Rotary Core balls this year. This core is somewhat similar to the Thunder core but more aggressive. These balls may be the upgrade path for those that want more T-Road

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Re: Storm Reign Info
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2009, 10:53:38 PM »
It makes sense actually because the Troad series and illusion series were very similar. the Troad pearl( had 3) and the illusion( had 1) rolled similar with the illusion being a little earlier or angular but hardly that different. They all rolled fantastic for me tho.

I think its also a bit of a sales strategy on RG/Storms part to let the reign have higher numbers Diff wise than the Illusion and Grand's replacements. this is only speculation of course, but it has been mentioned by Roger himself that the silverstreak/rotary core will make a come back. Players looking for the troad look can take that rotary core and go back to right where they were.

the rotary core in the retro, red, and blue were all above 2.56 and diffys over .055. then when they went to the bigger core in the RS series and added the lower ball, it made the RG drop and keep the diff high. There wasnt a single differential in the RS line that wasn't above .058.

The T roads numbers were the same 2.56 and diffs over .055. Your going to see Rotogrip make a bigger push in its midprice line up than ever with storm giving the troads retirement.

The Utah group is about 4 steps ahead of the game right now and intends to stay there. RG and storm are now working together now more than ever.


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Re: Storm Reign Info
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2009, 03:04:48 AM »
I agree the specs are different but then again compaines can tweek very minor things. The only thing I want to bring up is. Would storm really bring out a asymmetric core for the mid price range? The reason why I ask this Dave_in_Rio_Rancho even though the specs are different I cannot see specs changing that much to change the type of core it is or am I wrong. Either way i am very excited to see what this bad boy will do, cause regardless it being r2s I think it will be a different make up then what was on the T-roads
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Re: Storm Reign Info
« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2009, 09:38:27 AM »
I agree - my first thought when you brought this up was, now that's interesting. I had forgotten the Empire core was Trade Marked CAM.

My second thought was, how would this work out for the current bowlers throwing the Troads? PA, ND etc.

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Re: Storm Reign Info
« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2009, 01:13:27 PM »
I think ND would love it if this is the same core cause maybe with the r2s cover it would create an even stronger ball off the point then the t-road pearl
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Re: Storm Reign Info
« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2009, 08:04:48 PM »
I am not sure of the name (CAM) but can tell you that the Reign will NOT have the Roto Grip Asymm. CAM core.  My understanding is that the core will be almost the same as the original Eraser Core.

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Re: Storm Reign Info
« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2009, 08:50:53 PM »
Nope.  Final design is not yet set.

I saw one test ball go down the lane when in Utah last week and the motion as compared to what else I saw it thrown against was unique.  Best I can describe is a Firestorm look - just have to make reference back to that era to understand.  TO BE CLEAR, I don't mean a Firestorm on today's conditions.  I mean how the Firestorm looked back then.  But that's just my opinion.
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