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pba1530

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symetrical cores
« on: December 26, 2003, 06:22:08 AM »
I can't get the ball down the lane at all in the midwest pba. Someone told me to use balls with symmetrical cores and also to use forward roll drillings. Is this true and what balls have symmetrical cores and what drillings are for forward roll. Any advice from anyone I bowled like crap in Cahokia and just missed the cut.

 

Burak Natal

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Re: symetrical cores
« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2003, 10:24:47 PM »
I don't wanna go back to that famous argument about which determines the ball reaction most, but in my experience, surface is the primary factor.
I'm not saying that it doesn't matter which type of cores you choose. It is for sure that in some cases, some core-surface combination may suit your style, release etc. better. Of course with a certain drilling which suits best with those particular conditions you are bowling as well as your style.
However, I believe that solution of getting down the lane more easier is not directly related with symmetrical-assymmetrical core selection. Weaker/high RG drillings together with a smoother and/or polished surface will help better.

Regarding drilling:
Pin placement above bridge or even above the middle finger will give you more length to clear the heads easily (pin to PAP distance 5" or more).

Only exception in that advice telling you to use symmetrical cores, that person might meant 3 piece weaker cores.

What I kindly advice you is to find a good ball driller who will watch your game first and consult it with him/her.

Hope this helps..
Burak
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Re: symetrical cores
« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2003, 10:52:06 PM »
some balls that have symmetrical cores are the fuzes. I bought a fuze detonator this week. It's absolutely incredible. But I want to try the new vicious strike. It sounds like a very snappy ball. Which is the kind of ball I'm looking for. The fuze detonator is a very very good ball. I shot 2 300's in a roll!!!!!!!! And before I bowl my highest average ever was a 193. I'm so happy. But I don't like the smooth reaction. I'm looking for a snappy ball. I'm going to buy the vicious strike. But I don't have enough money. So I'm thinking that I want to sell my detonator. It's sixteen pound. Drilled very aggressive. If you're interested then e-mail me at patrickluongmail@yahoo.com. Thanks!

Burak Natal

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Re: symetrical cores
« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2003, 06:27:23 AM »
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some balls that have symmetrical cores are the fuzes. I bought a fuze detonator this week. It's absolutely incredible. But I want to try the new vicious strike. It sounds like a very snappy ball. Which is the kind of ball I'm looking for. The fuze detonator is a very very good ball. I shot 2 300's in a roll!!!!!!!! And before I bowl my highest average ever was a 193. I'm so happy. But I don't like the smooth reaction. I'm looking for a snappy ball. I'm going to buy the vicious strike. But I don't have enough money. So I'm thinking that I want to sell my detonator. It's sixteen pound. Drilled very aggressive. If you're interested then e-mail me at patrickluongmail@yahoo.com. Thanks!


Detonator is a solid particle oil ball. One of the great balls in the market for sure. However considering pba1530's needs, it won't be a good idea.
Detonator should not be your first choice when you are struggling with clearing the heads. Unless of course if you drill it weak and put a good amount of polish on it. In my humble opinion there are better choices..

Just my 2 cents..
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scotts33

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Re: symetrical cores
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2003, 03:59:26 PM »
pba1530--I'd check out this thread ------> http://www.ballreviews.com/Forum/Replies.asp?CategoryID=2&ForumID=75&TopicID=32935&PageNum=1

or any thread Phil Cardinale/new guy has on symmetrical cores.  Basically here is what he says on this thread ----> newguy "Most of the new MB balls use a very agressive coverstock in order to get them started. This presents a problem when the lanes change. They are very sensitive to subtle changes in the lane condition and thus in my opinion have a limited use time during competition. Symetrical balls tend to have a longer performace time during cometition because they are less sensetitive to the conditions. Also MB balls require specific drilling and hand postioning to match the drilling so if a skilled player wishes to change his had position to alter the motion the specific MB placement may and usually does work against them. This may be the reason that you rarely see a strong MB ball used for any legnth of time by the pros."

Maybe this helps.  Do a search set your preferences back at least 120 days and check.

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