srry yes i did give no info. the ball has been drilled once never plugged. he only used it in a couple of tournaments. he said he will sell it to me for $50. he said 80 at first but when i told him the guy who drills my balls is going to charge me 50 bucks to plug it and re-drill it he droped it to 50. i know the guy, he bowls in the same leauge as me. btw, is 50 to much to get it pluged and drilled with tips? i think so. just wondering if im right