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VICTORY ROAD review by Storm Staffer Jeff Richgels
« on: January 21, 2011, 09:41:10 AM »

Here is the data on the VICTORY ROAD from Storm:



http://stormbowling.com/products/balls/victoryroad



The VICTORY ROAD features the popular and highly successful R2S pearl coverstock – used in balls like the T-ROAD PEARL – over the re-engineered Fe3 weight block, which is the HY-ROAD core inverted. Storm says it was "looking for a versatile piece with a strong motion down lane." The box finish is 1500-grit polish.



The HY-ROAD was a ball that frustrated the heck out of me. When it worked, it was a world beater, such as in the minor events at the 2009 USBC Open Championships where I averaged 245 the last 5 games. But I lost track of how many times it got nothing but 9-counts for me – solid 9, ring 10, etc. Meanwhile, everyone I knew using it seemingly was striking all the time. I drilled three HY-ROADs and tricked up the surface.



I e-mailed Storm tour rep Chris Schlemer for suggestions on drilling my VICTORY ROAD with an eye to something that went long and made a strong move without being "squirty."



Per Schlem's advice, my VICTORY ROAD has the pin about 2 inches above my bridge, with the CG kicked right of my ring finger and a weight hole 4 1/2 inches on a line from my grip center through my CG. The idea is a ball that controls the midlane and makes a strong move on the back-end. He said that is a common drilling on Tour for control.



I ended up with a pin to PAP distance of 5 1/4 inches. The unmarked "mass bias" (it's a symmetrical ball) to PAP is 2 1/2 inches. The pin buffer is 3 3/8  inches.   



A picture of my VICTORY ROAD is in my blog here.



http://host.madison.com/sports/recreation/bowling/article_bf33dff0-1ffe-11e0-b5a4-001cc4c002e0.html



I've used the VICTORY ROAD in our Sport league on the PBA Earl Anthony pattern at a center with very hooking synthetics; in a singles tournament on the 2010 USBC Open Championships pattern at the same center; and in our City Tournament team event on the USBC White 1 pattern at a center with middling synthetics.  



So far, all I have to say about the VICTORY ROAD is OH MY! It does exactly what Schlem said it would do and then some – it gets to the break point consistently and makes an amazingly hard turn. It definitely needs some oil to get to the breakpoint but the reaction is consistent and strong – not crazy flippy.



I used it the most on the light oil (17 mls, 39 feet) USBC White 1 pattern and found myself moving too slowly and not enough, afraid that the VICTORY ROAD would skid too much in the oil as we turned that pattern into a tricky wet-dry condition. The VICTORY ROAD never once 2-10'd where my REIGN would do that. And it got to the spot a lot cleaner than my REIGN SUPREME, which is hybrid R2S and needs more oil for a clean skid than the VICTORY ROAD.



If you're looking for that ball to stand inside on a broken down pattern and send to the right knowing it will turn the corner and return, the VICTORY ROAD is your ball.



It is amazingly strong – much more than the T-ROAD PEARL and somewhat more than the REIGN – and predictable – more so than the HY-ROAD. Plus it is cleaner to the spot than either the REIGN SUPREME or HY-ROAD.



It reminds me of a stronger RAPID FIRE PEARL.



The No. 1 source for bowling news, analysis and opinion is my blog, The 11th Frame, which is here:
http://host.madison.com/sports/recreation/bowling/

 
Edited by riggs on 1/22/2011 at 3:59 AM

 

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Re: VICTORY ROAD review by Storm Staffer Jeff Richgels
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2011, 08:23:17 PM »
how much weight was taken out with that hole???


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Re: VICTORY ROAD review by Storm Staffer Jeff Richgels
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2011, 02:58:06 AM »
Quite a bit. It was about 2 1/4 positive side and finger weight before the hole went in. It's a 1 1/8 hole maybe 2 inches deep -- sorry I didn't measure that. Can do it if it means a lot to ya.


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Re: VICTORY ROAD review by Storm Staffer Jeff Richgels
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2011, 01:01:18 PM »
what's your axis? i'm thinking about copying this as i'm looking for the reaction you're getting out of it. Thank you!

 


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Re: VICTORY ROAD review by Storm Staffer Jeff Richgels
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2011, 03:20:22 PM »
5 1/8 over & 3/4 up


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Re: VICTORY ROAD review by Storm Staffer Jeff Richgels
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2011, 05:33:41 PM »
What is the length of the pin on this ball? I ordered one with a 3-4 and am hoping that is what I receive.

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Re: VICTORY ROAD review by Storm Staffer Jeff Richgels
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2011, 06:54:04 PM »
nice read.. you would not happen to remember the box specs on the victory road before drilling it..??  thankss slashrr69

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Re: VICTORY ROAD review by Storm Staffer Jeff Richgels
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2011, 08:59:33 AM »
Pin was out abotu 3 inches.  I don't pay attention to static weights like top weight because they are essentially meaningless to ball reaction.


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Re: VICTORY ROAD review by Storm Staffer Jeff Richgels
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2011, 10:12:35 AM »
riggs,

 

does using a weight hole in that position tighten your flair rings much and also what does it do to ball reaction vs the same layout with a longer pin that would not require the hole to be so high.

 

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Re: VICTORY ROAD review by Storm Staffer Jeff Richgels
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2011, 11:07:11 AM »
Since I don't have a VICTORY ROAD in that drilling to compare it to, I can't say anything definitive on your points.

 

What I can say is that Schlem told me it would control the midlane and provide a great back-end move ... which it does. 

 

If you want to ask him your comparative questions, he is on Storm's page at chriss@stormbowling.com I believe.


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Re: VICTORY ROAD review by Storm Staffer Jeff Richgels
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2011, 09:37:12 PM »
hey, i just got a victory road and i love it, its drilled 30x4x30 and my axis is 3 5/8 over 1/2 up, above average speed and rev rate, i have a question though, it seems like my vic road has a tendency to not read the lanes enough in the first game, i have had 3 hy-roads, and i was wondering if i should get another and drill it slightly stronger than my vic road and let the hybrid cover do its thing for earlier games until they transition enough for the vic road or my trop heat hybrid? i was thinking since i have some shop credit and its enough to get a new hy-road, i could get one and drill it like, idk 25x4.5x25? and just that slight difference combined with the hybrid cover will read a little better on fresh? any thoughts? 

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Re: VICTORY ROAD review by Storm Staffer Jeff Richgels
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2011, 04:07:27 AM »
How about a Marvel? It seems like the layout you want to put on the Hyroad would somewhat counteract the extra grip of the hybrid cover and you may end up with a similar reaction to your Victory Road. If you are really set on a Hyroad, I would suggest a pin down, low hole drilling (50x4x70?)
 



brett_dubbin wrote on 2/2/2011 10:37 PM:hey, i just got a victory road and i love it, its drilled 30x4x30 and my axis is 3 5/8 over 1/2 up, above average speed and rev rate, i have a question though, it seems like my vic road has a tendency to not read the lanes enough in the first game, i have had 3 hy-roads, and i was wondering if i should get another and drill it slightly stronger than my vic road and let the hybrid cover do its thing for earlier games until they transition enough for the vic road or my trop heat hybrid? i was thinking since i have some shop credit and its enough to get a new hy-road, i could get one and drill it like, idk 25x4.5x25? and just that slight difference combined with the hybrid cover will read a little better on fresh? any thoughts? 

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Re: VICTORY ROAD review by Storm Staffer Jeff Richgels
« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2011, 06:15:09 AM »
VICTORY ROAD definitely is not ideal for fresh unless volume is low. So a HY-ROAD or MARVEL would be a better choice.


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Re: VICTORY ROAD review by Storm Staffer Jeff Richgels
« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2011, 01:50:48 PM »
perhaps perhaps, i have to see if my shop has any hy-roads in stock, if he doesnt i was kinda mulling it around to drill a reign supreme.... i havent had any luck any of the 3 reigns ive had but i never tried a supreme. im not sure what layou to put on it, idk if a versatile layout would give it enough read in the early games, 40x4.25x40 ? perhaps, i was thinking of putting a similar drill to that on my tropical heat hybrid im gonna be getting in a couple weeks but im not sure how itd do on a supreme, thanks for the feedback btw, more is always appreciated.

 

hmmm, just saw this prodigy posted, real close on span, but do you think the layout with the earlier stronger core and stronger cover will give me the early game read i need?

 


 

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Edited by brett_dubbin on 2/3/2011 at 3:24 PM

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Re: VICTORY ROAD review by Storm Staffer Jeff Richgels
« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2011, 04:53:59 AM »

 
brett_dubbin wrote on 2/3/2011 2:50 PM:
perhaps perhaps, i have to see if my shop has any hy-roads in stock, if he doesnt i was kinda mulling it around to drill a reign supreme.... i havent had any luck any of the 3 reigns ive had but i never tried a supreme. im not sure what layou to put on it, idk if a versatile layout would Egive it enough read in the early games, 40x4.25x40 ? perhaps, i was thinking of putting a similar drill to that Ron my tropical heat hybrid im gonna be getting in a couple weeks but im not sure how itd do on a supreme, thanks for the feedback btw, more is always appreciated.

 

hmmm, just saw this prodigy posted, real close on span, but do you think the layout with the earlier stronger core and stronger cover will give me the early game read i need?

 


 

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Edited by brett_dubbin on 2/3/2011 at 3:24 PM
      if I can suggest a layout for your reign supreme, go with a 5.25 inch pin to pap below the fingers.  Swing the cg to 3/4 ounce of side weight so that you don't have to use a hole but if one is desired after seeing the ball react you can use one. You won't ever have to worry about being illegal with that side weight and you can take out up to an ounce and 3/4 with a weight hole. I used that on my reign supreme then hit the cover with used 2000 pad.

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