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toomanytenpins

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virtual death for my virtual gravity
« on: February 08, 2009, 09:52:04 PM »
i have had my vg since before xmas and just like any other ball i rave about just as soon as i start to rave about how great it is it pukes out and dies on me.
   this ball went from stopping and turning on a dime to the most subtle non arching ball i have ever seen .I clean it, i soaked it,i hit it with a green scratch pad and the more i throw it the worst it gets.I know i sound like a typical hack cry baby ,but i am not knocking the ball.I trully hope that a change in surface is going to help i might even get it plugged and redrilled.I was just wondering if anyone else has encountered this and what, if any ,steps you took to correct it.
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Dan Belcher

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Re: virtual death for my virtual gravity
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2009, 06:05:28 AM »
Did you say you hit it with a green Scotchbrite pad?  That's quite a bit of surface compared to the box finish!  It sounds like your ball is rolling TOO early because of the surface you have put on it.  Take it to the pro shop and have them gradually work the ball back up to the 4000 abralon box finish.  (Also, if they have a Revivor at the pro shop, that's the most effective way to get oil out of the ball.  Second most effective is dishwasher with the dry cycle turned off.)  Alternatively, you might like adding polish over a lower grit surface -- that might give you more length and stronger backend reaction as well.

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Re: virtual death for my virtual gravity
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2009, 06:37:40 AM »
I agree with Dan, a virtual on a THS with that surface will most always burn up before it has a chance to make a move.  I also have never heard of a storm ball dying.  I've had countless numbers of storms and have never had a problem with any.  The only time I don't see hook is when I put some surface on a stronger ball (attitude shift, dimension, passion, t road solid) and then take it to league.  Any type of rev rate will just cause the ball to labor the whole way.  I think if you took it back to OOB you'll see it come back to life again.


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riggs

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Re: virtual death for my virtual gravity
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2009, 08:08:30 AM »
I have hundreds of games on my main VG and have never done anything to it but clean it with rubbing alcohol and it is as close to box performance as any bowl I've ever thrown.

I would tend to agree with Dan.

NEVER EVER USE SCOTCH BRITE ON YOUR BOWLING BALLS!!!!!!!

All it does is scratch them up and make them roll early. Use Ab pads!!!!

You should go to a good shop and get it redone to the 4,000 Ab box finish and see what happens.

actsbowler21

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Re: virtual death for my virtual gravity
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2009, 09:19:40 AM »
Thank You Jeff, I have been telling several bowlers not to use scotch brite pads on bowling balls because all they do is put scratches on them. There are several cases for both arguments about using S/B pads but I some of my colleagues agree that they aren't the best thing to use.

As far as the original topic goes, along with what's already been suggested, take into consideration the environmental factors taking place at your center. I've watched our league shot go through three different phases during the season while being fully aware that the same pattern is being put down.

At the beginning of the season, here in Orlando, fall is still summer time it seems, surface was on every rack from Dimensions to Black Widow Bites etc. Come december, when we finally get "fall" temps in the 60's and 70's we started to see people put the low grit balls away because they started burning up too soon, or in some cases as the bowlers like to say, "mah ball stopped hookin"..Last week we had a Florida freeze (40's) and I was playing the lanes with a tropical storm  and we had a 300 shot with Power Groove Urethane...

Point is, sometimes the weather (depending on your center set up) can have an effect on the oil on your lanes which will effect your ball reaction. Clean your stuff on a normal basis and keep an open mind that sometimes is not just the ball..

los2003

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Re: virtual death for my virtual gravity
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2009, 09:24:34 AM »
You will almost never nee dany kind of 600 grit on a vg.. I'm not against all sb pads just the lower grits.. I actually like the white.. And at 600 the ball will burn up 15 feet down the lane

toomanytenpins

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Re: virtual death for my virtual gravity
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2009, 05:28:21 PM »
you guys are saying a green scratch pad will take a 4000 grit ball down to 600 with just a hand sanding ,no spinner and not much pressure

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Re: virtual death for my virtual gravity
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2009, 05:47:13 PM »
Maybe depends on how deep those scratch go down, even 1000 on a VG is too much unless the flood from Noah's Ark.

When I am moaning about the VG hooking to early dull I am actually whining about 4k abralon, I could not imagine trying 1k or down with one of these balls.



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you guys are saying a green scratch pad will take a 4000 grit ball down to 600 with just a hand sanding ,no spinner and not much pressure

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Re: virtual death for my virtual gravity
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2009, 10:01:39 PM »
with SB you get deep scratches as everyone else has said will make the cover grab in heavy oil but once the balls cover hits friction those deep scratches offer less surface contact so the ball won't grab as much off the dry.so you get early energy loss in the mids and and less hook of drier area. Scotch Brite will help in real heavy oil patterns with no area but you won't see the ball hook much anyway in a true heavy oil shot.
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