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woodzx12

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« on: October 02, 2009, 11:03:05 PM »
im back with a report. i bowler on my friday night team has the 715a. he is averaging 235. i asked him how he like the ball and this was his answer. this is a third game ball when the lanes dry up. he cant get the ball to hook in the first and second game. he has a very high rev rate. but he is using the 930t and loves that ball. so once again i have 6 bowlers who own this ball and they all say this ball will not hook like it is advertized. i used the storm vertual energy and shot 741. this ball was moving 7 boards harder than the 715a. can only use the 715a in the dry. 6 out of 6 people. 6 differnt styles of bowlers. same answers. extreme hook. maybe if you are bowling in the sahara desert.

 

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Re: 715a
« Reply #31 on: October 05, 2009, 10:32:51 AM »
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Re: 715a
« Reply #32 on: October 05, 2009, 10:57:41 AM »
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kid joe and big mouth, Who said anything about drilling balls. He said he had it drilled that way. You track followers think you are the only ones that know how to drill. And do any of you drill, or do you just come on and run off at the mouth. And he did not delete his post. More then likely it was deleted because it was negative. People on this site talk about the fools at lane 1.  Your track followers are right up ther with them.  you guys act like you know it all, then you twist things around. Bottom line, the ball is weak and it is not angular. Now make up all the excuses you want. Do any of you even have the ball.  Or did you all sell them too. After all it was the best pearl ever.
What a joke you are.  There have been post saying that the ball is smooth. Yet the three stooges here have spoken. and now no ones opinion matters, just theirs. Well I'll say one thing about you guys, your all good for a laugh, nothing more.  Best one was, help from a track staffer. Yep, just what i would want, help from someone who 2 years ago was telling people how to drill the Rising.  I would not ask any of you what day follows saturday and comes before momday.  Cause your all a joke.  Look at the picture.  Ya you mean the one with the cg above  and right of the fingers and the mb about 9 inches away from the pin.  Is that the picture you speak of.  If the mb is 3" from the val in that pic, then the pin is about 9" away.  Ya, i would want that copied. Of course I doubt that the three stooges have even seen the drill sheet. Cause their all a joke.  Ya accurate pic, a joke thats what you all are.



Lol if you think your important enough for me to read that sorry excuse of a rambling thought you've sorely mistaken. Your a fool and not worth anyones time so crawl back in your hole with your other clueless friend woodz.
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« Reply #33 on: October 05, 2009, 11:09:49 AM »
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Re: 715a
« Reply #34 on: October 05, 2009, 02:18:56 PM »
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I think these guys are a bit slow, if you know what I mean.  The first thing that jumps out to me is that they are bowling on a shot that requires the 930T, yet they want a ball, the 715A, that gets instant length and is super polished to hook.  Last time I checked polished pearls weren't the best choice for heavy conditions.  Maybe trying listening to the people that are here to help?  Take them there shiny balls yall got and make em a bit duller, yeeehawww!



were does it say on my post that i bowl in heavy oil. i told you guys i am not saying that i dont like the ball. what i am saying that the ball is advertized on the track web site extremely angular, long and strong, and medium to med heavy oil. all you people have to realize what the consumer is buying. im buying this ball because tracks webs site says that this ball will do these facts.around here in the mens league mosts of us bowlers use polished balls because we are not limp wristed. how can i say this any clearer. 6 men averaging 200 or better all say the same thing about the 715a.the lane condiction is not flooded with oil. it is a tough shot and i dont seem to having any trouble with the virtual enegry hooking on that shot.the 715a is a good 3 game dry alley ball. but thats not what tracks web site says. but now as for crying for help as my good x friend sammy said i would not ask you track people what day of the week it is much less how to drill a ball.

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Re: 715a
« Reply #35 on: October 05, 2009, 02:24:18 PM »
What do you mean, you people?
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« Reply #36 on: October 05, 2009, 02:27:38 PM »
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What do you mean, you people?
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« Reply #37 on: October 05, 2009, 02:49:33 PM »
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What do you mean, you people?
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here is a classic examble of what losers do. when faced with hard facts off tracks web site they have no answer. so they come on and post bull sxxx reply like this. i noticed in your profile you use your 930 at 1000 pad...
so i can understand why u think no one can use a polished ball in the first game.  dont be a hatter.

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Re: 715a
« Reply #38 on: October 05, 2009, 03:00:08 PM »
So you're saying a ball that is designed to skid/flip needs some friction to react?

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« Reply #39 on: October 05, 2009, 03:10:56 PM »
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So you're saying a ball that is designed to skid/flip needs some friction to react?

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Re: 715a
« Reply #40 on: October 05, 2009, 03:12:53 PM »
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So you''re saying a ball that is designed to skid/flip needs some friction to react?

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cant you read..... what i posted is what the track web site is saying. and the ball is not doing it.is track going to give me back 200.00 for this ball. i dont think so... if you go to best buy and buy a product and it says that it does one thing and u bring it home and does another. u can return it. i on the other hand can not. so stop putting this ball out to be something great when all it is. a smoother verison of the freeze. now for fool that said this balls drilled off the picture of the drill sheet it is not because if u look at the sheet the pin is 9 inchs or better from the mass bias. and thats impossible. so only a fool would drill off a track drill sheet.(remember the alamo [ rising ] another $200 bucks of my money down the drain.

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Re: 715a
« Reply #41 on: October 08, 2009, 05:17:27 PM »
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Are the balls being left at box surface?  All the ebonite brands that come polished have an extremely hard polish from the factory.  Everyone that I''ve drilled up for my customers and myself I''ve taken the surface down to 1000 or 2000 and polished back up.  Also just telling us someones average doesn''t give any information on drilling or axis tilt.  Also were the drillings on the 715A and the Energy similar? Also the surfaces are different being that the energy is 1500 with polish.  I''m not saying it''ll make them the same but at least the layout and surface prep have to be close.
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Excellent point... Their balls have fabric softener on them to protect the cover...
Cleaning the ball first will indeed help.. The method you use is excellent.

Now I know 10,000 people are going to question the fabric softener...

So let me be perfectly clear...

I don''t care if you believe it or not... And I will not come back and debate it...

You can either choose to believe it or not...
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Joe Jr

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Re: 715a
« Reply #42 on: October 08, 2009, 07:01:50 PM »
My 715a likes medium oil conditions,
http://s37.photobucket.com/albums/e56/RevLefty/Vids/?action=view¤t=IMG_0290.flv

Looks long and angular too me.

And I agree that the factory finish is probably too shiney for most people, 1000 or 2000 and repolishing working great.
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