Author Topic: How to clean a ball video. (Read 3946 times)

Mark T. Trgovac · « **on:** November 07, 2006, 06:23:07 PM »

Hey guys whats up, I thought it would be a good idea to make and post a video on how to clean a bowling ball. The link is below and I use clean and dull. One of the things I say is a way to remove any residue you may see. I really never see any residue, I included this because someone els may. That step is totally optional.

http://media.putfile.com/cleaning-a-bowling-ball
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Noy · « **Reply #1 on:** November 08, 2006, 03:37:28 AM »

Hey bro,

I appreciate the effort put into the vid, although I do have concerns.
1) Applying the Clean N Dull with a Scotch Brite pad.
I'd imagine that using a pad would dull the surface of the ball down to the rating of the pad. If your desired surface is what is produced by the pad then its all fine and dandy, but I think a simple towel would suffice is applying the CND.

2) The "dirt and oil" on the ball and towel looks like the residue from sanding with the pad. Again, just a little inaccuracy.

Maybe you could turn this video into a "How to DEEP clean your ball" then state at the end that the person would need to sand back up and possibly repolish the ball after the process is finished.

Overall, pretty good instructional vid. Maybe cut it shorter on the repetitive parts, but again, great overall effort and instruction.
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Edited on 11/8/2006 4:32 AM

cficare068 · « **Reply #2 on:** November 08, 2006, 04:13:17 AM »

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Hey bro,

I appreciate the effort put into the vid, although I do have concerns.
1) Applying the Clean N Dull with a Scotch Brite pad.
I'd imagine that using a pad would dull the surface of the ball down to the rating of the pad. If your desired surface is what is produced by the pad then its all fine and dandy, but I think a simple towel would suffice is applying the CND.

2) The "dirt and oil" on the ball and towel looks like the residue from sanding with the pad. Again, just a little inaccuracy.

Maybe you could turn this video into a "How to DEEP clean your ball" then state at the end that the person would need to sand back up and possibly repolish the ball after the process is finished.

Overall, pretty good instructional vid. Maybe cut it shorter on the repetitive parts, but again, great overall effort and instruction.
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Edited on 11/8/2006 4:32 AM

Actually if shouldn't dull the ball since the grit on the Scotch Brite pad is the same as the surface of the ball. Now if where to use a green scotch brite then that would be a problem and dull the ball down since it is roughly equal to 600 grit. But if the ball already has an 800 grit finish and you are using an 800 grit pad then your not going to affect anything.
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Noy · « **Reply #3 on:** November 08, 2006, 04:30:02 AM »

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quote:
Hey bro,

I appreciate the effort put into the vid, although I do have concerns.
1) Applying the Clean N Dull with a Scotch Brite pad.
I'd imagine that using a pad would dull the surface of the ball down to the rating of the pad. If your desired surface is what is produced by the pad then its all fine and dandy, but I think a simple towel would suffice is applying the CND.

2) The "dirt and oil" on the ball and towel looks like the residue from sanding with the pad. Again, just a little inaccuracy.

Maybe you could turn this video into a "How to DEEP clean your ball" then state at the end that the person would need to sand back up and possibly repolish the ball after the process is finished.

Overall, pretty good instructional vid. Maybe cut it shorter on the repetitive parts, but again, great overall effort and instruction.
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Edited on 11/8/2006 4:32 AM

Actually if shouldn't dull the ball since the grit on the Scotch Brite pad is the same as the surface of the ball. Now if where to use a green scotch brite then that would be a problem and dull the ball down since it is roughly equal to 600 grit. But if the ball already has an 800 grit finish and you are using an 800 grit pad then your not going to affect anything.
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Yes, I know, and I said "If your desired surface is what is produced by the pad then its all fine and dandy, but I think a simple towel would suffice is applying the CND."

People can misinterpret the vid and think that you HAVE to use the grey pad everytime you use CND.
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Weaser · « **Reply #4 on:** November 08, 2006, 06:50:54 AM »

Instructions on my bottle of CnD indicates that a scotchbrite to be used in the application. Very light manual pressure of a gray or green SB will not visually alter the surface of a matte ball. Even using a white SB on a polished ball is fine if minimal manual pressure is used. This will not cause sheening as if a spinner was used. Remember to wash off the residue with water or Powerwash. Carl & I have discussed this long ago & Scoot has carried on the tradition.
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legend4life95 · « **Reply #5 on:** November 08, 2006, 10:48:43 AM »

I know you are just trying to help, but if people really don't know how to clean their equipment then they should just take it to a proshop. Its not freakin rocket science. And I agree that you don't need a scotchbrite pad to clean with. If you used that pad with ANY pressure on a polished ball, it WILL dull it. Using a clean terrycloth hand towel to apply on a spinner or by hand works just as good as any method there is. After I'm done cleaning it, I prefer to spray the ball down with water on the spinner and follow with a microfiber towel to dry. To each his own.
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Brickguy221 · « **Reply #6 on:** November 08, 2006, 11:15:17 AM »

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If you used that pad with ANY pressure on a polished ball, it WILL dull it

A white pad on a polished ball WILL NOT dull the ball.

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Using a clean terrycloth hand towel to apply on a spinner or by hand works just as good as any method there is.

Applying Clean & Dull on a spinner leaves a sheen on the ball.
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Noy · « **Reply #7 on:** November 08, 2006, 12:33:19 PM »

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If you used that pad with ANY pressure on a polished ball, it WILL dull it

A white pad on a polished ball WILL NOT dull the ball.

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Using a clean terrycloth hand towel to apply on a spinner or by hand works just as good as any method there is.

Applying Clean & Dull on a spinner leaves a sheen on the ball.
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Brick

A white pad, regardless of its abrasiveness, is still ABRASIVE. While it may not dull a ball to the extent that a gray or green pad will, it still dulls the ball to an extent regardless of how much pressure you apply. Just like if you took a finely sanded and polished piece of metal (back of an ipod) and ran a white pad over it, you'll see the scratches.
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Brickguy221 · « **Reply #8 on:** November 08, 2006, 02:00:27 PM »

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A white pad, regardless of its abrasiveness, is still ABRASIVE. While it may not dull a ball to the extent that a gray or green pad will, it still dulls the ball to an extent regardless of how much pressure you apply.

NO! It doesn't have the least bit of effect on the coverstock.
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Noy · « **Reply #9 on:** November 08, 2006, 02:30:01 PM »

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A white pad, regardless of its abrasiveness, is still ABRASIVE. While it may not dull a ball to the extent that a gray or green pad will, it still dulls the ball to an extent regardless of how much pressure you apply.

NO! It doesn't have the least bit of effect on the coverstock.
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Brick

Then tell me sir, why would one use a white pad or even suggest it if it makes no difference to the cover? I've seen many posts here that suggest the white pad has a grit rating.

Here's what Im referring to: http://www.ballreviews.com/Forum/Replies.asp?TopicID=74110&ForumID=16&CategoryID=5

SCOTCHBRITE GRIT CHART (courtesy of Charlest)
3M Scotch Brite Nylon Pads:
7445 - White pad, called Light Duty Cleansing - (1000) 1200-1500 grit
7448 - Light Grey, called Ultra Fine Hand - (600-800) 800 grit.
6448 - Green (?), called Light Duty Hand Pad - (600) 600 grit
7447 - Maroon pad, called General Purpose Hand - (320-400) 320 grit
6444 - Brown pad, called Extra Duty Hand - (280-320) 240 grit
7446 - Dark Grey pad, called Blending Pad (180-220) 150 grit
7440 - Tan pad, called Heavy Duty Hand Pad - (120-150) 60(?)
Green Scotch Brite is available EVERYWHERE. It's 600 grit.
Blue Scotch-Brite is considered to be about 1000 grit.
(The value inside the parentheses is directly from 3M.)
3M Chart
Less Aggressive --------> More Aggressive
7445 7448 6448 7447 6444 7446 7440
Finer Finish --------> Coarser Finish
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Edited on 11/8/2006 3:34 PM

SnoopyCanBowl · « **Reply #10 on:** November 08, 2006, 02:41:31 PM »

Wow, thanks scoot....

MORE PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!
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leftehh- LG · « **Reply #11 on:** November 08, 2006, 02:44:58 PM »

what grit is a white pad?

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Edited on 11/8/2006 3:37 PM

pnj1967 · « **Reply #12 on:** November 08, 2006, 02:47:07 PM »

Scoot; Good Job !!!!!!!!!!
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legend4life95 · « **Reply #13 on:** November 08, 2006, 03:05:47 PM »

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quote:
If you used that pad with ANY pressure on a polished ball, it WILL dull it

A white pad on a polished ball WILL NOT dull the ball.

quote:
Using a clean terrycloth hand towel to apply on a spinner or by hand works just as good as any method there is.

Applying Clean & Dull on a spinner leaves a sheen on the ball.
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Brick

Brick, reread my reply. I said if you use "THAT"(800 grit) pad on a polished ball with any pressure it will dull it.

Also, C&D on a spinner "WILL NOT" leave a sheen on a dull ball if you spray the ball down with water and dry with a micro fiber towel as I stated. That will take any sheen or residue off the cover.

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Noy · « **Reply #14 on:** November 08, 2006, 03:13:39 PM »

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Then tell me sir, why would one use a white pad or even suggest it if it makes no difference to the cover? I've seen many posts here that suggest the white pad has a grit rating.

My theory? Abralon and sand paper actually have an abrasive medium that they use to achieve the grit value.

Where as S/B doesn't have any other than the coarseness of the nylon fiber that's used in the manufacturing. As you get to the finer grits, the nylon gets softer and has less effect on harder surfaces.

That make any sense?

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It makes perfect sense, but what got me was the statement that it wouldn't have any physical affect on the ball. I still think it will bring the cover down to some extent regardless of how little it is, but I also believe that if you did it by hand, it wouldnt be so easy. Thanks for the enlightenment =)
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