Author Topic: Is this the answer? (Read 6448 times)

Grayson · « **on:** August 04, 2008, 07:15:25 AM »

Hi!

I am looking for a ball .... looking for a ball to compliment my Machine towards oilier patterns.

Now you must know that for me my Machine is the ideal ball for anything... but works best on meds. When it gets oily it skids... when it gets dry it burns up. Makes sense.

Now I am searching for a ball with the same potential reaction shape as the Machine but with a stronger overall hook.

Now my search has come to this results:
Mean Machine? Not really sure about this
Robo Rule - This seems to be THE answer ... same core stronger coverstock
Rising... mhhh... no clue about the ball... completely new concept
Uprising... well the same as the Rising

I am asking this question here as I am eager to stick with Track.... the Machine has been such a good ball for me .

the C+ from LAne#1 is working as it seems ... still am searching.

My other "options" or choices from other companies are
Terminator
Ogre particle

I am not really sure... Tell me what ball from Track has more bite overall with the same reaction shape as the Machine?
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Mark T. Trgovac · « **Reply #16 on:** August 07, 2008, 01:38:32 AM »

quote:
ok. I made it halfway down the road..

its either the Robo or the Meany... but I am not sure.

Ratings are very close just that the Robo seems a tad stronger and the meany a tad longer

so the question is. Will there be a real difference between a Mean Machine and a Robo Rule?

I know nothing about them... I only go by the numbers BTM gives me... how trustworthy is that?

So what ball is better for med-oil? what for real oil
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If you are looking at these to. The Robo is alot stronger then it says. The ball is a light load particle and grabs real early. However it still turns over well on the back for a particle ball.
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six pack · « **Reply #17 on:** August 07, 2008, 05:48:32 AM »

quote:
quote:
ok. I made it halfway down the road..

its either the Robo or the Meany... but I am not sure.

Ratings are very close just that the Robo seems a tad stronger and the meany a tad longer

so the question is. Will there be a real difference between a Mean Machine and a Robo Rule?

I know nothing about them... I only go by the numbers BTM gives me... how trustworthy is that?

So what ball is better for med-oil? what for real oil
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If you are looking at these to. The Robo is alot stronger then it says. The ball is a light load particle and grabs real early. However it still turns over well on the back for a particle ball.
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Mark "scoot" Trgovac
C-G Pro Shop
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Youngstown, Ohio
Track HITMAN.

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Agreed! the Robo was smoother then the Meanie and the Meanie could be jumpy on a fresh med-heavy wet/dry.I would go with the Robo for heavy oil.
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Grayson · « **Reply #18 on:** August 08, 2008, 12:35:25 AM »

so for a two ball arsenal with optional coverstock preparations what of the two you would say would go better with a Machine?
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six pack · « **Reply #19 on:** August 08, 2008, 06:15:19 AM »

I would pick the ROBO for oil.
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NJStroker · « **Reply #20 on:** August 08, 2008, 12:16:19 PM »

definetly the robo
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Grayson · « **Reply #21 on:** August 08, 2008, 02:48:10 PM »

k.. the robo
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LaneHammer20 · « **Reply #22 on:** August 08, 2008, 03:03:49 PM »

give us some feedback once you punch it up, and get to roll it some. I certainly think you won't be disappointed
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Grayson · « **Reply #23 on:** August 14, 2008, 03:25:19 PM »

I will!

Thomas Wendt has contacted me... I hope he can pull out a Robo from somewhere

Just to mention: I took my Machine down to ~1000 just by hand (it is not so good honestly... I can see the ball getting shiny after 8 games already again) and the M is doing the job better... not as good as desired but I can play it for high scores if I keep my game straight and not force too much hook on the ball...

on those lanes I found a tight line is better with a smoother roll...

Can I play it..

Oh yes! I now know how to make the Machine roll smooth or become a backend monster... all I have to do is swing freely or rev it up with my fingerwork...

Can I controll it`?

not good enough... I need to take some time and practice

But surely I would love to have a ball that does what the M does now but stronger and more reliable and I can shine the M back up a bit (well it will all by itself with time) and play the M where it is best... on meds!

I will see....

As I wrote... there are flaws in my game and thsoe often keep me from breaking through... but it is very frustrating being forced to play an undesired line...
The M is a great ball and I am glad I drilled it... but it is not really what works best on those lanes...
I play fast and I can rev it and yet often I saw the M skid throu... frustrating.. and then I have the line... let it roll and all ten go down as if pulled by strings... so satisfying!

I will see if the Robo will do the job if I can get one... on the more oily patterns it should be the best choice where the M is too weak... and then the M will do the Job once the Robo burns up.

Also I want to thank Thomas (username: TomWendt) already for his effords!
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Billy Ray · « **Reply #24 on:** August 15, 2008, 09:25:34 AM »

quote:
I will!

Thomas Wendt has contacted me... I hope he can pull out a Robo from somewhere

Just to mention: I took my Machine down to ~1000 just by hand (it is not so good honestly... I can see the ball getting shiny after 8 games already again) and the M is doing the job better... not as good as desired but I can play it for high scores if I keep my game straight and not force too much hook on the ball...

on those lanes I found a tight line is better with a smoother roll...

Can I play it..

Oh yes! I now know how to make the Machine roll smooth or become a backend monster... all I have to do is swing freely or rev it up with my fingerwork...

Can I controll it`?

not good enough... I need to take some time and practice

But surely I would love to have a ball that does what the M does now but stronger and more reliable and I can shine the M back up a bit (well it will all by itself with time) and play the M where it is best... on meds!

I will see....

As I wrote... there are flaws in my game and thsoe often keep me from breaking through... but it is very frustrating being forced to play an undesired line...
The M is a great ball and I am glad I drilled it... but it is not really what works best on those lanes...
I play fast and I can rev it and yet often I saw the M skid throu... frustrating.. and then I have the line... let it roll and all ten go down as if pulled by strings... so satisfying!

I will see if the Robo will do the job if I can get one... on the more oily patterns it should be the best choice where the M is too weak... and then the M will do the Job once the Robo burns up.

Also I want to thank Thomas (username: TomWendt) already for his effords!
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Its So nice to Actually hear someone acknowledge they need to practice! I constantly help people in the bowling center who just don't understand the need to practice even on today's soft conditions. Although I will admit I am a HUGE hipocrit about practice. I really do not like practicing alone and honestly I know my game suffers at times. I use my League nights as practice for tournaments and come off as over critical of my game in league when I shoot 230 and complain about how bad I bowled. I just know in a tournament that was a 190 game or worse sometimes. Keep up the hard work.

Also Thomas is a great resource for older equipment. I think he has an underground bunker filled with Track stuff! LOL but even he couldn't find me a 15# Nuke NIB! LOL

Good Luck
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Grayson · « **Reply #25 on:** August 19, 2008, 02:19:02 PM »

Thomas has not repsonded yet... guess this will take some time... but a former club member of mine had a Mean Machine

Never came to grips with the ball... Maybe I can get this one. Let's see.

I also found that the lanes are getting (by miracle

) getting drier again as the weather is getting colder and the staff might have noticed that the oil is a bit.... well... I bet the next weeks it will get "normal" again...

But nevertheless I want that stronger "Robo-cored" ball... either a Robo or a Meany.

When I get a Meany I will redrill it smoother (MB kicked out) ... arcing drilling with the Pin in a bit earlier position to keep the ball stronger and smoother than the Machine.

I will see when I get a Robo...

cya
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LaneHammer20 · « **Reply #26 on:** August 19, 2008, 03:40:02 PM »

there are robo's on ebay. I THINK I saw a few NIB's a few days ago.
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TomWendt · « **Reply #27 on:** August 19, 2008, 06:19:19 PM »

Hello Grayson

guckst du hier: www.porkysproshop.com/track_robo_rule.asp?cat=48

I asked A. Block, Berlin about the robo, please wait until thursday.

@Billy
Sorry Bill, the nuke I have is 14 and the only one in my collection -)
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Grayson · « **Reply #28 on:** August 20, 2008, 02:47:19 AM »

Thanks!

quote:
Hello Grayson

guckst du hier: www.porkysproshop.com/track_robo_rule.asp?cat=48

I asked A. Block, Berlin about the robo, please wait until thursday.

@Billy
Sorry Bill, the nuke I have is 14 and the only one in my collection -)
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Track staffer intern.
Track Hitman intern.
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Mark T. Trgovac · « **Reply #29 on:** August 20, 2008, 02:58:48 AM »

It didnt say on the link but keep in mind that the MB on the Robo is only .010. The mean machine was .020.
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Grayson · « **Reply #30 on:** August 20, 2008, 03:04:55 AM »

but aren't all using the same core?

or is the Mean Machine different
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