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Question(s) about the Xception and my arsenal
« on: November 10, 2005, 10:47:54 PM »
Ok, is the Xceptin that strong of a ball? My Xceptions seems to be the strongest ball in my arsenal next to my GP2. It is a totaly different kind of reaction than my other equipment. Does it just come off the dry that strong? I have the following: GP2, Freak-A-Zoid, Xception, Rule and a Desert Heat. The Rule and the GP2 are currently waiting (4 weeks now) to have the Thumb redrilled to lengthen my span, so I really only have the other 3 for now.  Last night I was playing about 15 - 7 with the X, but if I missed out just a tad it was roaring back to the nose or Brooklyn and if I pulled it in just a tad it was still diving the nose. I made several moves with the same results. I finally swithched to the FAZ and was able to play out to the dry much easier without the overreaction, but I also had to move a good 5 - 7 boards right of where I was with the X. Maybe I am just not fully understanding my equipment yet. I feel kinda dumb about it, and frustrated, but I was hoping for some clarification. It seems like my X is the only ball I can move inside and play the bigger hook with. It just also seems like it covers alot more boards than the rest of my equipment. Yet I read on here that people say it is more for Med - Med/light. I'm so confused and probably sound like an idiot, but hopefully you guys can help me answer some of these questions.

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Re: Question(s) about the Xception and my arsenal
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2005, 07:11:48 AM »
The exception, rule, and desert heat are all reactive coverstocks. the gp2 and freak a zoid are particle coverstocks.As you stated about playing "out to the dry" reactives are designed to more or less jump off of dry boards as opposed to particles grabbing the lane much sooner and not give as violent a reaction off of the dry.The Freak a Zoid was trying to grip the lane as soon as it hit,therefore it was using up some energy in the front part of the lane and not giving you a hard turn at the break point. Reactives get through the heads(oil) easier,but are designed to make a dramatic move off of the breakpoint assumimg it's drier than the rest of the lane. If at the breakpoint, there's some oil, you'll find that a reactive won't make a as hard a turn becuase it wants to skid through the brak point. Hope this helps,and i'm sure the staffers maybe able to shed some more or different info.     Ken

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Re: Question(s) about the Xception and my arsenal
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2005, 07:17:28 AM »
The only thing is, the FAZ is reactive too.
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Re: Question(s) about the Xception and my arsenal
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2005, 07:33:01 AM »
Wylie, how are the Xception and FAZ drilled??

The only thing I can think of initially is that off the dry, the Xception is VERY angular and maybe the angle was too much, thus coming through the nose. Whereas the FAZ, with its low rg, revs up sooner and isnt as angular. Therefore, it started up a bit prior to hitting the dry and rolled through the backend giving you more of an even and controlled look. In turn, the FAZ got to the pocket more easily than the Xception.
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Re: Question(s) about the Xception and my arsenal
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2005, 07:41:58 AM »
The X is drilled Pin above and right of Ring with the MB right of thumb.  FAZ pin is very high above and just right of ring (very long pin like 5") with the CG just right of the gripline.  I don't really know my PAP info since my driller has never told me (not sure he really even knows).  I am confused as to whether or not I am going to have a hole in my arsenal.  My Rule is normally polished and fits wuite well between the X and the Desert Heat.  I'd thought and would like to say that the FAZ would go between the X and the GP2, but now I'm not so sure.
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Re: Question(s) about the Xception and my arsenal
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2005, 07:58:42 AM »
Yeah, as I thought with the Xception, with the MB placed to the right of the thumb it is going to be very flippy/angular. That is really the only thing that I can come up with as to why that ball is diving on you. Too much angle coming off the dry.
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Re: Question(s) about the Xception and my arsenal
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2005, 08:06:21 AM »
I understand that it is a Skid/Flip ball and that is what I wanted.  I just didn't realize it was so strong overall compared to the FAZ.
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Re: Question(s) about the Xception and my arsenal
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2005, 08:08:06 AM »
I know have seen what you are saying. With the GP2 being particle, and the FAz being low Rg, neither really jump off the dry for those reasons. The Desert obviously does not either, and the X and Rule have the same core, with slightly different covers....the Rule, while being reactive, really never JUMPED off the dry, while it was more than my other stuff, I never saw the change of direction i do with the Arsenal Reactive right now. So, the X is a big backend ball, and when it encounters dry, it turns HARD. The GOO LS, pearl, and ploished cover all contribute to that...so it is not necessarily hooking more, but just outbackending the rest of your equipment. I am having the same issue right now when I practice at Hunt Club, which is on the THS...a ton of fresh backends....the Reactives I have just JUMP off the dry and I have to move deeper with them than my Aggressives or GP2...but its due to the JUMP off thwe dry, not becuase it is hooking overall more.

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Re: Question(s) about the Xception and my arsenal
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2005, 08:15:50 AM »
So should I think about adding something more between the X and the GP2?  Or should I just stick with the FAZ.  I feel like I should possibly have another particle in there to replace the FAZ.  Something like an Arsenal or a 5.0 or even a Blue Heat maybe?  I'm just concered about going to tournaments and not having a gap in my arsenal.
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Re: Question(s) about the Xception and my arsenal
« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2005, 08:32:46 AM »
While I like the 5.0, I think you need something with a smoother backend...somethign like the Aggressive. The ball has lots of hit for a smooth backend and I can even play inside with it, which is not normal for me with a even particle ball on the backend...I usually 10 pin myself to death...but not with this ball.

Plus, if you get the 5.0, I really think it would be too close to the Rule and X you already have...the Aggressive in my mind would give you a touch more separation than the 5.0.

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Re: Question(s) about the Xception and my arsenal
« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2005, 08:35:34 AM »
Thanks Clint.  I think I may start looking for one.  I think I am getting some of this straightened out in my head a bit.
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Re: Question(s) about the Xception and my arsenal
« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2005, 07:22:49 PM »
Kyle,

The Xception is just that strong off of the dry. You will see that it is the dry that makes it turn when you encounter a longer pattern. Adding something above it wouldn't be a bad idea....just look for a different reaction. From the sounds of it I would suggest the Arsenal Reactive.........it will still offer up backends, just not as "skid/flip" as the Xception.

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Re: Question(s) about the Xception and my arsenal
« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2005, 03:44:23 AM »
Hey Kyle,

I was going to say the same thing as D Pat.  It sounds more like the shot you're on is "creating" that reaction with the Xception while the FAZ can actually expend some of its energy so it isn't quite as flippy on the backend.  It still boils down to what I keep trying to explain as "stored energy", the more energy we can get a ball to store in 40+ feet, the more violent the reaction is once it encounters friction.

Let's try this again bud, take a marble and spin it between your fingers sideways on the table/ground.  Once that marble can create enough friction on the ground, it will grab and "jump" off into another direction.  Now try it again but spin the marble less and you'll see the marble make less of a movement when it grabs.  This is exactly what happens to "any" object that has the capability of "storing" energy and then releasing it.  The more it stores and builds up, the more violent the reaction once it encounters "enough" friction to do so.

From your description, your Xception is able to store a lot of energy and then it is released once it encounters friction (dry boards), hence the extremely strong move you're getting on the backend.

The ball I'd choose for you to go under the GP2 would also be the Arsenal Reactive like EX said.  I agree with Clint on the point of picking something smoother in reaction and the Reactive which has a lower rg offers exactly that.
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Re: Question(s) about the Xception and my arsenal
« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2005, 06:27:59 AM »
So would the Arsenal Aggresive or Arsenal Reactive be better?  I was leaning towards the Aggresive as it would give me another particle piece in my arsenal.  We are going to be having another Track seminar next month, I think I may wait until then and get something.
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