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TWOHAND834

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Las Vegas Review
« on: February 24, 2009, 09:15:31 AM »
Hello, all!!

My experience in Vegas for the USBC Tournament was fun, but expensive.  That was the first thing I noticed was the spike in food prices over what I see at home.  I will post more about that later.  Here is my experience for the USBC Tournament.

HOTEL:  Planet Hollywood.  This was a cool place as it was located in the South Central area of the Strip, across from Bellagio and Caesars Palace.  The Buffet there was awesome.  Never seen anything like it compared to other buffets.  Way better than anywhere I had been in Reno.  Downfall, is that the price was around $25.00 per person to eat there.  But, for what all you get, it was worth it.  My room was adjoining to a suite my sponsor stayed in.  It was a traditional sized room with a much bigger bathroom than what you would get from any Choice Hotel or Motel 6.  Downfall, the shower had little hot water though the separate bath tub had hot water for days.  Could not figure that out at all.  Service was excellent as they sent up a service guy right away to take a look at it.  Due to the lack of hot water in the shower, I would rate the overall experience a B+.

FOOD:  We ate at a variety of places from the Buffets at Planet and Rio to the Top of the World atop the Stratosphere.  Any nice restaurant, expect to pay in the neighborhood of minimum $50.00 per person to eat.  We had a group of 5 that ate at the TotW, and it cost roughly $500.00, not including tip.  If you want a cool dining experience, the Roxy's Diner inside Stratosphere is a must.  It has a 60s atmosphere and the waiters/waitresses about once every 10 minutes grabs a microphone and sings (some dancing included).  It was pretty cool and recommend it to anyone.  Pricewise, compared to most places, was reasonable.  Expect to pay roughly $12.00 for a decent sized chef salad and $15.00 for a huge burger.  Our last day there, 2/23, we ate lunch at the Hawaiian Tropic Zone at Planet.  Prices again were fairly reasonable and the waitresses serve in their bathing suits.  Overall eating experience I rate a B due to good food, but a spike in pricing.

SHOWS:  We saw 2 shows during our stay in Vegas.  We went to the Celebrity Tribute at the Stratosphere which showcased lookalikes of musical superstars.  There were 5 that we saw and the show lasted about an hour and 15 minutes.  The performers were:  Elvis, Tim McGraw, Rod Stewart, Christina Aguilera, and Michael Jackson. They were alot of fun to watch and the resemblence to the actual superstars were eerie.  The other show we saw, which was last night, is a staple to the Vegas Strip; The Blue Man Group at the Venetian.  Tickets were somewhat pricey, though the show lasted about 2 hours.  For tickets near the stage were $140.00 a piece.  I believe the cheapest tickets were $80.00.  The show was awesome and would see them again.  The coolest part of both shows:  The performers walk out into the lobby area so you can take pictures and even get autographs.  Other shows that are going on right now:  Cher playing at Caesars, Criss Angel and Carrot Top at Luxor.  Overall show experience:  A

BOWLING:  I was told by another bowler that the BTM is a waste of time as the pattern is completely flat 1:1 ratio.  If you decide to bowl that, don't go before the USBC itself.  I recommend waiting until afterwards.  The shot at the USBC was the opposite of the rumors going around in that the shot was going to be "softer" with more free hook.  Don't think so.  The track area compared to last year was tighter in that boards 6-9 this year played like there was more length and outside 5 is just O.B.  The middle of the lane will hook if you don't get enough push through the heads or pull the ball inside your intended target. In other words, the shot plays fairly flat.  In team event, there was surprisingly not much transition.  Out of the 10 bowlers on my pair, 7 were playing outside/up the track.  I stayed in and kept trying to use the 10 board as my breakpoint and waited for the track to burn up and it never did.  That was on lanes 49-50.  I bowled my singles set (747) on 9-10. I bowled my doubles at 7:00 a.m. Sunday morning and this time, the outside started with a little more hook right, though it did not last long.  In practice, I got the ball out to 5 board and the ball recovered to the pocket.  By the time the 5th frame hit first game, it was gone, touch inside, and the ball hooked and a touch right, the ball never made it back.  Back inside I went playing around 25 at the arrows out to the second range finder down the lane.  My lack of scoring in team and doubles was the result of throwing it bad and not making spares.  Brackets are a complete pain and believe the USBC is doing a disservice to its bowlers by this years set up.  BTW...when you get your ticket from the parking garage at Binions, take the ticket inside to the cashier and they will cover the charge of parking.  Overall experience with lane condition, brackets, and ball reaction:  Typical

CASINOS:  If you want a more upscale/modern appearance, Mandalay Bay, Venetian, Wynn, Palazzo are more upper class.  Binions is old and run down.  Stratosphere reminds you more of Reno and Planet falls in the middle. The inside of Luxor (pyramid) is pretty cool.  They have another sphinx inside and the way the rooms are, is pretty neat.

OVERALL:  For my first time out in Vegas, I would rate it a B+.  The strip at night is happening with all the shows and lights.  Take some extra money with you as food prices are a little much if you are not prepared for it.  I wish everyone going out there the best and if you have any questions, let me know.
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Re: Las Vegas Review
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2009, 05:24:07 PM »
Good shooting in singles. Read about it on the USBC Open site. Excellent write-up about Vegas. I am leaving on Monday to go and I hope I can have atleast a B+ experience for my first time there too.
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Re: Las Vegas Review
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2009, 05:35:58 PM »
Here is decent link to save money for shows and dinners, there is also Restaurant.com with some good places use zip code 89101.


http://www.tix4tonight.com/shows/index.php

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Re: Las Vegas Review
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2009, 05:51:50 PM »
Thanks for the review. Too bad about the brackets and hope they catch on for others that are coming later.

I ate at the Top of the World in 2000 for my 50th birthday, they over cooked my steak and brought me another. Too bad the prices have gone up in Vegas, I remember back in 72 when a guy could eat for less than $5.00:-)

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Re: Las Vegas Review
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2009, 09:17:02 PM »
Sorry to be a little off topic. Here's a decent site for all heading. Refferred to me by acard playing friend.

cheapotravel.com - they review Vegas,Reno and a few others. You can find some cool stuff and info through him.

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Re: Las Vegas Review
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2009, 06:51:44 AM »
Steve,
   First off, thanks for the review. Secondly, Great bowling in Singles.

Now after kissing your butt a little, lol, I have to disagree with you. Yes the BTM is a flat 1:1 pattern, very tough. But I have found that bowling that before bowling Nationals helps me focus on hitting my mark. With any THS if you miss your mark by 2-3 boards either way, it usually doesn't matter. On these types of shots, it makes a huge difference. I usually find the Nationals shot a little easier after bowling on the true flat shot at the BTM. I think it is a great tune-up for Nationals personally. Plus remember this year they have the 1-2-3 tournament which be bowled on the Nationals pattern as well.
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Re: Las Vegas Review
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2009, 10:39:48 AM »
I appreciate the kudos, everyone.  Kudos to the guy that bumped me down to 2nd. Curious as to what he was throwing and where.  Going from 499 in team to 770 in singles.  WOW!!!  The reason I say I would not recommend bowling the BTM is because if you struggle mightily to put anything together, you get to endure that going into the USBC itself.  May not be what you want to do.  Everyone's mentality is different and I understand that.  It was just a suggestion.  My sponsor is a VIP at a few of the casinos there so half the food I ate was comped.  Great information though to pass along to those that won't have that luxury.  I feel very fortunate to have had that.  Any money you can save while over there is a definite plus.
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Re: Las Vegas Review
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2009, 10:46:45 AM »
Just in case some of you missed this the last time I posted it...here's a link to a great resource for doing Vegas on the cheap.

http://www.cheapovegas.com/index.php

Have fun!

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Re: Las Vegas Review
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2009, 12:11:58 PM »
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Steve,
   First off, thanks for the review. Secondly, Great bowling in Singles.

Now after kissing your butt a little, lol, I have to disagree with you. Yes the BTM is a flat 1:1 pattern, very tough. But I have found that bowling that before bowling Nationals helps me focus on hitting my mark. With any THS if you miss your mark by 2-3 boards either way, it usually doesn't matter. On these types of shots, it makes a huge difference. I usually find the Nationals shot a little easier after bowling on the true flat shot at the BTM. I think it is a great tune-up for Nationals personally. Plus remember this year they have the 1-2-3 tournament which be bowled on the Nationals pattern as well.
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Jorge I will agree with you on the BTM, it is a great tune up for the Nationals as well IMO.

I think TWOHAND misunderstood me, because I was the only one in our group that bowled it.  I know his game and what his comfort zone is, I told him I thought it would have been bad for him.  The shot is VERY far inside and you have to be VERY soft through the front part of the lane.  I bowled like garbage, but it wasn't the shot's fault.

It plays just like you would expect a 39' dead flat pattern on HPL to play...lot's of backend...and lots of hang if you don't tilt it through the fronts.
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Re: Las Vegas Review
« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2009, 01:41:13 PM »
I am bowling team Sunday night with a group from Ft. Worth what balls worked on fresh???

My driller says dulled pearls are working well so far like Gravity Shift at 1k or so, he said my Hot Sauce dulled to 2k would work and other smooth balls if you are a track player like myself.

What did you see in your group with the track players??

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Re: Las Vegas Review
« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2009, 09:20:07 PM »
Good shooting Steven and you too Randy.

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Re: Las Vegas Review
« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2009, 09:31:43 PM »
Thanks Steve, and great shooting in Vegas.
The review you gave is first class and very much appreciated, I haven't been to Binnions in about 15 years, but last time there I did have some luck in the poker room.
This is the kind of review that bowlers need to be giving, to help out others especially about prices, don't want to be going to Vegas without enough money to eat with.

Thanks again for the review
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Re: Las Vegas Review
« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2009, 02:56:11 PM »
Nice shooting Steven, that should still get you a decent check when all said and done.

First trip in Vegas huh?  That had to be something...did you collect the flyers they were handing out on the strip?...

Quick Vegas terminology:

Las Vegas Blvd from Mandalay Bay to Wynn/Encore or Stratosphere (mr bowlingnut can help here) aka "Strip"

Fremont Street area where the older casinos are located is know as "Downtown"
(free light show every hr on the hr, starts when it gets dark usually)

Also be careful when crossing the strip, cars do NOT stop for you.  As a matter of fact, after a light turns red, don't be surprised to see 2 more coming across, it's a drag strip.
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Re: Las Vegas Review
« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2009, 04:48:18 PM »
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Fremont Street area where the older casinos are located is know as "Downtown"


I haven't been to Vegas since Fremont WAS the Strip.

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Also be careful when crossing the strip, cars do NOT stop for you. As a matter of fact, after a light turns red, don't be surprised to see 2 more coming across, it's a drag strip.
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Here in Nevada red lights are more of a suggestion. Our state accident is the rearend-er committed by those NOT expecting the lead car to actually take said suggestion.

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Re: Las Vegas Review
« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2009, 05:44:40 PM »
Thank you everyone.  You may laugh but I used a Columbia Rock On at box surface that I found brand new a couple years ago.  The past couple years, I have had a good look with that ball until the track goes away.  For what it is worth, yes, traffic does not stop and if they do, expect to hear their horn.  I almost kicked a cab at the front doors to Rio because as I was crossing, this cab driver in a new Malibu had to be doing easily 25 MPH under the overhang as I was crossing.  I did not see him at first because I was behind a pillar at the time I started crossing.  Next car was a Mercedes that I was halfway across when he entered the entry way and I gave him the time out signal.  

Getting back to what works on the lanes, a variety can be used if playing the right part of the lane.  Ed Ilano and Lisa Wagner were part of the group I was with and when they shot 1330 in Doubles, they both used polished Black Pearls playing 15 at the arrows out to 10 breakpoint and obviously had a good look.  Ironically, the guy that shot 770 in Singles, bowled that set on the same pair of lanes as Ed and Lisa's Doubles score (Lanes 15-16).  As anywhere else, it is all matchup based on your style.
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