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Mike E

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Aggressive Drills on Low Diff. Balls
« on: September 01, 2008, 04:17:51 AM »
I've begun to aquire some visionary equipment for this winter season.Most of what I've gotten so far tends to have somewhat low differentials,(Slate Blue,Blue green centaur,Blue Sparkle Gryphon)and a Blurple Ogre on the way. I've been fooled before by low diff. balls ( Sonic X comes to mind). I put an aggressive full roller drill on the Sonic X and Sonic Boom and they were so aggressive I rarely ran into any conditions I could use them on. Are the visionary balls also sneaky strong like the sonics despite their low differentials? Full Roller drills carry best for me but I don't want a repeat experience of the sonics. Thanks for any input.

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Re: Aggressive Drills on Low Diff. Balls
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2008, 12:32:46 PM »
how do full roller drills carry better for you?  a layout will not make the ball carry better. Vissionary's low diff balls are very good on lighter conditions, especially the B/G Centaur and the Slate Blue.
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Re: Aggressive Drills on Low Diff. Balls
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2008, 12:45:58 PM »
Sure different layouts carry better on different conditions than others. Using a 135 degree layout when the backends are dry makes more sense than using a 0 degree.But that wasn't the topic was it?

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Re: Aggressive Drills on Low Diff. Balls
« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2008, 06:15:40 PM »
Mike,

Learn from my mistake. I did not realize that the Ogre Pearl coverstock was as strong as I now know it is. My first drilling was too rolly a drill PLUS I never played deep enough to allow it to retain energy. I tried different surfaces, but it and I never "got together". I redrilled less rolly but with a slightly stronger pin position. I still hadn't learned how strong and grabby (higher friction) the cover was/is.

Eventually, I played a littl edeeper and allowed the ball to stay in the oil long enough to retain energy when it hit the dry.


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Re: Aggressive Drills on Low Diff. Balls
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2008, 06:47:26 PM »
The Blue Sparkle Gryphon can also be quite a strong ball.  

I had one drilled label leverage and scuffed off the polish and it was almost too much for anything less than frest shots.
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Mike E

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Re: Aggressive Drills on Low Diff. Balls
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2008, 07:21:45 PM »
Thanks Guys for the replies. I think I'll take your advice and stay away from the full roller drills this time. I recently put the full roller on a Lanemasters Hornet and I can only throw it on a fresh house shot. I wanted to avoid these balls being unusable to me.

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Re: Aggressive Drills on Low Diff. Balls
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2008, 08:21:26 PM »
quote:
Thanks Guys for the replies. I think I'll take your advice and stay away from the full roller drills this time. I recently put the full roller on a Lanemasters Hornet and I can only throw it on a fresh house shot. I wanted to avoid these balls being unusable to me.

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Mike,

As far as I know, never having thrown a full roller drill as a 3/4 roller, that drill makes balls react very early and very strongly. WHy did you use it? or what made use it? It's not something that would occur to me.
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Re: Aggressive Drills on Low Diff. Balls
« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2008, 09:45:04 PM »
Charles,I really like the way the full roller drill rolls and carries. In a lot of respects I think it is similar to what I've seen from the Cell. The ball stays continuos all the way through the deck. Now alot of that has to do with me using 90 degree axis rotation. When I first started bowling a driller introduced me to this drill because I clipped the thumbhole. That really had more to do with me tracking high but I didn't realize that at the time. When I use the full roller I put the pin 2" to grip center in a 7:30 direction. The 3&3/8 to grip center is really too much for me. The full roller works better for me on the lower flaring balls which is why I considered putting it on the slate blue and the blue green centaur.The higher flaring balls I recently started drilling 6" pin to pap with a 70 or 80 degree C.G. placement. Pin 4" above the midline.I'm comfortable throwing a swing shot out to the third arrow and the full roller drill combined with a low flaring ball allows me to do so.

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Edited on 9/2/2008 5:06 AM