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The Illustrious One

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AMB Solid
« on: August 09, 2005, 07:36:47 AM »
It's now up on the website. Check it out at:

http://www.visionarybowling.com

Matthew P. Klein
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Re: AMB Solid
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2005, 10:32:49 PM »
Hi Matthew,

I just noticed your post and wanted to congratulate you on your latest 300.  I guess that you still like your Violet Gargoyle.  It's pretty impressive that you had never shot a 300 prior to getting it, and have shot 3 in a matter of four months.  Keep up the great bowling and I hope to see more from you.

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Re: AMB Solid
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2005, 12:25:45 AM »
So is this ball USBC approved?  I thought the rule on the max differential allowed was .060, and all the AMBs (I think) are .062.  Was visionary able to get them approved before the rule change, or what?  Thanks

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Re: AMB Solid
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2005, 12:34:17 AM »
Hi Jeremy,

Yes, this ball is USBC approved.  All of the balls that we have in our current line, plus a couple still to come have been approved and grandfathered in prior to the rule change.

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Re: AMB Solid
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2005, 01:47:08 AM »
ok, thanks Jason.  I had heard something about that but I wasn't completely sure.  Thanks for clearing that up.  Sorry to kind of steal the thread but, does Visionary plan on putting out any drier lane/lower end balls in the near future (say 6 months).  Or are the Gargoyles basically going to be your "low end" ball?  I love my slate blue and am planning on getting either a green or violet here soon unless I hear about another low end ball.  I may just wait depending on what it is.  Thanks again

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Re: AMB Solid
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2005, 03:34:11 AM »
The AMB solid is great looking, and also looks like it's going to be a monster.  I know the website said that it's going to be a fall release, but is there a certain date that's been targeted yet?  

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Re: AMB Solid
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2005, 07:50:50 AM »
Hi Jason,
Thanks! That Violet Gargoyle is just a beast on the lanes, it compliments my game perfectly. Never had a ball like that. Ordering another one, too, you'll be seeing more from me.....guarantee it!!!! =p

Matthew P. Klein
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P.S. Don, I think for Test Staff the AMB Solid is available in the next weeks, not sure if it'll be available to the public at the same time.
 



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Re: AMB Solid
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2005, 10:50:14 AM »
Jason and all,

What's the difference between the Frankie May and the AMB Solid?  Differential <.062 vs .056> slightly higher and the finish <400 to 1000> is what I see.  Is the reaction close or ????

Thanks,
Scott

BTW--Matthew nice shooting with your Violet.  My best series last year was also shot with a Violet <105 deg. layout> 793.  Love that ball.
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Re: AMB Solid
« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2005, 11:23:34 AM »
Is this ball what was formerly called the "Immortal AMB" on the approved list?
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Re: AMB Solid
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2005, 03:29:54 PM »
Just to let everyone know, this ball was reviewed in this month's BJI.  They really liked the ball, but said that it was very skid-snappish.  They also said that it is a great top hat/medium ball, but that one may need to tighten up on heavier/longer patterns.  I would have thought that it would be similar to perhaps an Ultimate Inferno.  

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Re: AMB Solid
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2005, 04:28:56 PM »
quote:
Just to let everyone know, this ball was reviewed in this month's BJI.  They really liked the ball, but said that it was very skid-snappish.  They also said that it is a great top hat/medium ball, but that one may need to tighten up on heavier/longer patterns.  I would have thought that it would be similar to perhaps an Ultimate Inferno.  

Don


They also said that both it and the Track Arsenal Reactive were for medium-light oil in their out-of-the-box surface. I don't that's correct for anyone. So it makes me wonder about those reviews in this month's BJI. Were they really written by Mike???
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Re: AMB Solid
« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2005, 04:31:06 PM »
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Jason and all,

What's the difference between the Frankie May and the AMB Solid?  Differential <.062 vs .056> slightly higher and the finish <400 to 1000> is what I see.  Is the reaction close or ????

Thanks,
Scott


Totally different core. Don't look at the numbers in isolation; look at the core picture. Also the AMB has an asymmetric core of what appears to be a high mass bias differential. That is, in part, why it is more flippy.
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Re: AMB Solid
« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2005, 11:33:54 PM »
Hello Jason,

Just seen this post and was wondering how this ball compares to the
DC Tour?

I likes the DC Tour and actually still have one NIB,
but I may try this one out to find a replacement for my Executioners

BTW
Has the charcoal been discontinued yet?

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Re: AMB Solid
« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2005, 06:59:10 PM »
Hello All,

I will try to answer all the questions asked, but if I miss something, please don't hesitate to ask again.

Jeremy - does Visionary plan on putting out any drier lane/lower end balls in the near future (say 6 months). Or are the Gargoyles basically going to be your "low end" ball?

At the present time we don't have any mid-priced balls in the works.  For the time being, the Gargoyle line is our least expensive balls, and will probably remain in our line as long as they continue to sell well.

Don - is there a certain date that's been targeted yet?

The release date for the AMB Solid has been set for August 19th.  Just a little over a week away.

Scott - What's the difference between the Frankie May and the AMB Solid? Differential <.062 vs .056> slightly higher and the finish <400 to 1000> is what I see. Is the reaction close or ????

The release of these two balls back to back may confuse a few people slightly due to the coverstock preperations.  With both in box condition, the AMB Solid will go longer and have more angle to the pocket than the FMay Gryphon.  (keep in mind that we describe backend #'s as a combination of angle and continuation through the pocket)  However, if you finish both balls the same, the AMB Solid will start up a little sooner and be a little stronger overall.  Essentially, if both balls have the same surface, the AMB will allow strokers get more ball reaction than with the Frankie May Gryphon.

DP3 - Is this ball what was formerly called the "Immortal AMB" on the approved list?

No, the Immortals are still to come.

Eric - Just seen this post and was wondering how this ball compares to the
DC Tour?

I would have to say that this is the big brother to the DC Tour.  The coverstock is stronger and handles carrydown better.  The core is also a little stronger, and more user friendly.  When drilled wrong, or into the heavy cap on the side of the DC Core, you could lose some of the dynamics of the core.  This could create a loss in reaction, or cause it to roll out for some bowlers.  With the AMB design, the driller is less likely to remove portions of the core, and should not affect the dynamics nearly as much.  

Thanks again for everyones support,
Jason Wonders
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Re: AMB Solid
« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2005, 07:08:00 PM »
Good stuff Jason.  Thanks for taking the time to answer all the questions.  Myself and everyone else appreciates it.

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