Author Topic: B/G centaur (Read 2402 times)

River700 · « **on:** May 15, 2009, 12:25:57 PM »

Hey everyone. I have a question about the B/G centaur? Since this ball has a marked mas bias, but is very very mild, does it matter where it is place in relation to the pap? Why I am asking is that I am thinking about getting one and doing a 4 inch pin to pap inline with my ring finger cg straight down and a hole over and just down from my pap. What is the best place or distance to the pap for the mas bias? Stats in profile.

I need some info about this asap!!!! Thanks

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Juggernaut · « **Reply #16 on:** May 23, 2009, 07:24:41 AM »

Sorry for taking so long to reply, been busy and didn't realize another Q had been posed.

Looking at the ball, the pin looks to be in a good position, but the small black pin is further from the thumb than I would want mine.

Like I said, I talked to Jason a lot before I drilled mine ( Jason is Vice President of marketing for Visonary and the son ( I believe ) of the founder, so he should know the equipment as well or better than anyone.

Jason always told me to keep the main pin close to the fingers and the little black marker pin close to the thumb. I did just that and they both worked great.
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River700 · « **Reply #17 on:** May 23, 2009, 10:59:08 AM »

Thanks Juggernaut for the info, I think I know what I want to do now

If I do buy this ball, I will plug and redrill and do that particular drilling on it

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Juggernaut · « **Reply #18 on:** May 23, 2009, 11:29:30 AM »

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Thanks Juggernaut for the info, I think I know what I want to do now
If I do buy this ball, I will plug and redrill and do that particular drilling on it
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Edited on 5/23/2009 11:00 AM

Scotts33 is also a fan of many visionary balls, and he seems to think the MB pin is close enough to the thumb for him, so a simple plug/redrill of the thumb to adjust the span might be enough for you to get the desired results without having to do a complete plug/redrill job.

If the ball were going to be mine, I would PROBABLY go that route first, before a complete plug job. If it wasn't quite enough, I might look into a full plug/redrill then.

The B/G really is a great, versatile ball. Not for every condition, but really good on its desired condition. Visionary really makes some great stuff, I just like to try too much new stuff to stay with any one company for too long, but if I did, visionary would be at the top of the list, for sure.

P.S. I always keep something from them around. Since I dropped down to 14lbs, I haven't gotten anything, but I've had my eye on a "blurple" for a while now

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River700 · « **Reply #19 on:** May 23, 2009, 02:47:43 PM »

Juggernaut, the reason why I would fully plug it is because my too hot is drilled label at 5 1/2 x 5 1/2 pin up, and I wanted to keep the surface on the too hot polished for when it broke down some, and was thinking about having the B/G centaur at like 4k or 2k abralon with the 4 x 5 pin next to ring to make it read sooner and for when it is fresh. But, I also have been looking at a storm ultra hot that is plugged and has a 1 1/4 inch pin and was thinking about doing a 4 1/2 x 4 1/2 or a 5 x 5 pin under ring with a 1 inch hole 2 1/2 inches deep either on my pap or just below it. These are my two options that I am looking at. I am going to ask a few of the storm people on here to see what they have to say, but if you have anything else you want to add that would be fine

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Juggernaut · « **Reply #20 on:** May 23, 2009, 03:15:42 PM »

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Juggernaut, the reason why I would fully plug it is because my too hot is drilled label at 5 1/2 x 5 1/2 pin up, and I wanted to keep the surface on the too hot polished for when it broke down some, and was thinking about having the B/G centaur at like 4k or 2k abralon with the 4 x 5 pin next to ring to make it read sooner and for when it is fresh. But, I also have been looking at a storm ultra hot that is plugged and has a 1 1/4 inch pin and was thinking about doing a 4 1/2 x 4 1/2 or a 5 x 5 pin under ring with a 1 inch hole 2 1/2 inches deep either on my pap or just below it. These are my two options that I am looking at. I am going to ask a few of the storm people on here to see what they have to say, but if you have anything else you want to add that would be fine

With the B/G I had, it gave me a pretty smooth reaction even with the higher pin position. My pins weren't as far above the fingers as this one, and the MB marker was closer to the thumb. With a full plug/redrill leaving you with a 4 inch pin-to-pap and the mb marker close to the thumb, I think you would have a real winner on tough/dryish shots.

While the Ultra Hot was a decent ball, I don't think there is any way to get it to cover the conditions that the B/G will. The core of the Ultra Hot is pretty mild, but the cover is solid curelyon with flecks ( small particles ) and is surprisingly strong. I would think that the Ultra Hot was designed to cover HEAVIER conditions than the Too Hot, and would thusly be quite a bit stronger. I feel that the B/G is much closer to the Too Hot in being designed for drier conditions, but it was just much more predictable for me than the Too Hot was.

If you are looking for something STRONGER than the Too Hot, I would give the Ultra Hot a good look. If your looking to replace the Too Hot with something to handle similar conditions, I would try the B/G. At least that's what I am thinking. The B/G isn't a weakling by any means, just designed for drier conditions and should be used there to achieve maximum results.

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Edited on 5/23/2009 3:16 PM

River700 · « **Reply #21 on:** May 29, 2009, 07:24:35 PM »

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