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Jeffrevs

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New Ball
« on: March 08, 2004, 04:24:27 PM »
On Visionary's website they have a "next ball" at the end of their line-up when you click the "balls" icon.........

I think it should be a symetrical solid............thoughts?
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Re: New Ball
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2004, 07:57:46 AM »
Either a symetrical solid, or a urathane version
of the excecutioner.

I also think that sooner or later, they need to bring back
the DC weight block.
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Re: New Ball
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2004, 08:34:57 AM »
I second livespive.  Maybe a Midnight Scorcher replacement?
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Re: New Ball
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2004, 08:43:59 AM »
Yeah they could use the DC core, and add it to the Gryphon
line seeing as it is the only line that they have now that
switches cores between balls.
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Re: New Ball
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2004, 09:44:08 AM »
what about a stronger Gargoyle, a step above the Granite ??  That's a hole I see
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Re: New Ball
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2004, 09:57:08 AM »
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I think that they are discontinuing the DC core since it gave some drillers (and therefore bowlers) fits. Either the balls were great or they were a flop depending on the drilling. I would like to see a stronger core in a urethane ball.
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I don't really think that they were flops, as much as I think
that they are more condition specific than most balls.

I have 4 drilled dc cores (midnight, 2 dc tours, dc warlock)
I drilled the first one stacked (pin about 4.5" away from pap mb under it)
At first it looked like it wasn't going to work, but once I found
where the ball shines it was great.

I will say this, if you don't follow the sheet with the ball, or the drilling
instructions on the site I thin you will have problems because of where
the mb is located in relation to the cg and the pin.  If you lay the ball
out via pin and cg the mb was not always in the same spot.  

As visionary states with the othe balls, there is a mb but it is not that
strong, it is more for achieving better pinouts.

The Dc core was just that, a "D"ynamic "C"ore  you had to make sure you placed
the mb where you wanted it.
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Re: New Ball
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2004, 11:18:03 AM »
back to the point guys .....

what do you think they're going to come up with next ?  Any Test Staffers call there and get some "inside" info ?
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Re: New Ball
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2004, 11:58:17 AM »
A little hijackin' never hurt anyone Jeff

Honestly, I don't know what the next ball will be.
I would almost venture to say a new line, seeing as
each of the lines have three balls in them.  Three
is going to be the magic number.  heck even the DC core
came in three balls.

Just something to think about
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Re: New Ball
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2004, 11:59:13 AM »
Eric, have you called, ....want to be our "researcher"........I vote YOU!
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Re: New Ball
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2004, 11:59:33 AM »
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livespive,
I completely agree with you. That is exactly what I meant, if the balls weren't drilled acording to Visionarys specs than they didn't really perform well. Since many drillers no longer consult sheets and just drill them up without caring about the MB the balls with the DC core have gotten a bad rap.
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Point taken,

I think we can give Jeff his post back
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Re: New Ball
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2004, 01:53:33 PM »
I called Visionary but Betsy couldnt say what the next ball would be.  She did say that they are still trying to get the clear Gargoyle made but that's been on-going for awhile now.
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Re: New Ball
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2004, 02:03:50 PM »
I emailed her when I placed an order here a few
weeks ago and got the same response as MI 2 AZ.
Although I did mention to her that they should come
out with a urathane version of the executioner.

So you never know

Seeing as I buy 5 balls each time I go there maybe
I'll get lucky.

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Re: New Ball
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2004, 03:20:17 PM »
Logically a Solid Gryphon ball is in the works, and JeffRevs, all the Visionary balls have been asymetrical. Not Symetrical.

They are missing Two important balls, A solid Resin with a Med RG core for a ball that saves more energy than the Charcoal Executioner. Something maybe with Mica, Similar to a shock trauma.

and the Second is a Real Particle Pearl. Stronger than a G-3, but less than a Burgandy. There is a Large Gap there. and A pearl Particle will fill that out best.

The DC i don't predict coming back in the forseeable future, as already stated it was a misunderstood ball by some.


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Re: New Ball
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2004, 03:47:42 PM »
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...and JeffRevs, all the Visionary balls have been asymetrical. Not Symetrical.



Ok,...I never said they were , either way, I said, I think they should have a symetrical solid......see below....

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I think it should be a symetrical solid............thoughts?


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Re: New Ball
« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2004, 05:17:14 PM »
Why take a step back, by going back to symetrical for a high end ball?
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