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roaddogg

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PBA Approved
« on: September 13, 2006, 02:09:24 AM »
Does anybody know if Visionary will be approved for use thru the PBA this year
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Gene J Kanak

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« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2006, 10:11:50 AM »
They are yet to show up on the registered list; I'm not sure if there is some sort of deadline for them to do so, but as of now, it appears they'll still be left out.
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« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2006, 10:15:58 AM »
I doubt it.  Could be wrong.
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« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2006, 11:15:54 PM »
i was talking to jason wonders at visionary about this the other day and he was telling me that it s 125000 dollars to register with the pba just so they can have someone throw there equipment and even more to have a pro play for them i dont blame them the pba is priceing companys right out of it i dont understand why they would do that but that is my opinion according to jason visionary will not register at the obnockious price they are asking
another note on my personal opinion how is this gonna affect other smaller companys like morich and lane 1 i personnaly see more company not registering
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roaddogg

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« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2006, 07:06:16 AM »
morich and lane 1 are both registered already. what about the grassroots or regional approval would that not be the a route jason would look into.
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« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2006, 01:21:26 PM »
i dont know i think even to be regional it is same price and i know that is a yearly thing they are charging kinda expencive i think
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« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2006, 02:17:31 PM »
The reason it is so expensive is the fact that the PBA is banking on the companies making money off their name being available.  It's the advertising idea.  If someone uses something at a tournament, and someone else sees it and likes it, that person may go get one.  The company draws income off their products being used.  The PBA probably estimates the amount of money a company can pull off of use of products on their tours for the entire year and makes that the fee.
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roaddogg

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« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2006, 07:12:14 AM »
I think to be approved just for the regional tour it is way cheaper. Plus it would get there name and product out to even more players
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« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2006, 10:28:15 AM »
Here's the explanation from the PBA.  http://pba.com/resources/ProductCategories.asp
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« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2006, 09:36:48 AM »
Good explanation David.  This topic has been brought up a number of times and I can see from any small manufacturers view point how it does not pay to register.  

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« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2006, 10:04:42 AM »
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Why should you have to hire a pro staff member? thats the dumbest thing ive ever heard.


Because without having someone on staff, you have no guarantee of having someone throw or promote your equipment.  You probably don't have to have a staffer, but you're not going to get much out of your $125K registration fee without one.  Someone might try out your equipment, looking for something different or better, but week-to-week, you don't have much to guarantee use of your equipment.

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« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2006, 01:55:25 PM »
Thank you, David, for that informative post.

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« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2006, 07:41:57 PM »
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Just a comment on the smaller companies like MoRich, Hammer, Lane 1, Track, AMF ... All these companies are second brands of the big 4, Brunswick, Columbia, Ebonite, and Storm. So a for regestration i'm sure it doen't cost them as much as full regestration on there own even if it does the big 4 cover it for them.


FYI...Lane#1 isn't technically a second brand of a big four company. They just have their covers made by Brunswick (and soon another company from what I hear). Lane#1 is its own company though...

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« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2006, 09:01:52 PM »
The ONLY reason that a particular bowler would want Visionary to be registered is a regional player.  I can think of Audric Bent being the only one that this has effected.  Maybe there are a few  others but very few.  

If, you are just Joe Bolwer who cares if they are registered are not?  So, you can see Micheal Haugen roll a Crimson Ex....sheesh c'mon people this doesn't make business sense.  Do you want Visionary to stick around or drive them to making poor business decisions?  Geez immaturity thru and thru.

Simple...Visionary has always made great equipment and they still do.  Being PBA registered doesn't make them better or worse.


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« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2006, 09:28:51 PM »
I agree with scott and what jason wonders are saying the profits and risk of doing this is just not worth the chance of there equipment being shown on tv and then really do they really give that much credit on what the bowler is throwing nope so really what is there benifit instead visionary is keeping there prices competative and making a very high quality product in my opinion they are doing it ther right way and remember visionary is one of 4 actual manufacturers storm columbia ebonite and visionary the rest are either owned by or getting something from the big 4 so out of the 4 i think they are doing a great job they are doing what other companys cant do they dont have backers they are all alone and doing a heck of a job
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