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scotts33

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Scorcher NPT - Old School
« on: March 14, 2011, 11:40:09 PM »
Here's my latest addition.  Old school!  Layout is 68* 4" 58*  PSA is 1 1/2"s right of thumb between X hole and thumb.  You'll note CG is 2"s right of pin.  This how much shift was needed to put PSA right of thumb with needed large X hole to make legal.  Put the X hole at P3 to shift the PSA.   I took the cover to 4000 abralon. 
 
Anyone else use a huge shift on a Vis. ball and what was your results?
 
I added this ball to combat the lower volume wet/dry house shot that I bowl 2 leagues on.  During the spring with the warmer temps. and the house management taking this THS to lower volume more wet/dry I will be able to play closer to the oil line and out to the dry without the jack knife thru the face that you normally see on a  wet/dry shot.  Being that this ball has a very much like urethane cover and ball motion that is what I am hoping for. 
 
For comparison B/G Centaur @ OOB works realtively well playing 9 arrows  to 5 break point but can still jack knife at times or high leaving 4 pins.  And if I move into the oil more say 11 to 7 it is a bit inconsistent.   So, I am hoping this ball will allow more of that line just a bit inside 10 and 7-8 at breakpoint with still a smooth arc but enough pop to carry well.
 
 
 


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Edited by scotts33 on 3/15/2011 at 7:52 AM
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Re: Scorcher NPT - Old School
« Reply #16 on: May 07, 2011, 04:56:18 AM »
i like reading about the "Old School" reaction from the older equipment! I perfer the immortal solid, Centaur solid, centaur pearl, and the B/G centaur! I still have fm gryphon, and the pearl! A particle centaur, and the ogre line! i'm so impress with all the visionary stuff! So I say everybody needs the "Old School" stuff in their bags!

 

And congratulation to roll a perfecto with the "Old School" stuff! 




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Re: Scorcher NPT - Old School
« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2012, 06:26:38 PM »
Added this one to my arsenal in Nov. and have seen my avg. go from 199 to 214. Was having trouble with the all-Gryphon lineup, as there was no enough oil for the Burgundy Gryphon and the Frankie May was burning up too soon on the second shift shot. Left me with the G-3 which isn't always the best choice with carrydown. Punched up a NIB Scorcher NPT and haven't used much else since! Kept it in box finish and find I can use it on a variety of conditions. A strong piece that hits as hard as any Visionary ball out there. I think this is one of the most under-rated balls ever to come out! Great work VBP
 
 
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Re: Scorcher NPT - Old School
« Reply #18 on: January 08, 2012, 03:14:25 AM »
Using a big shift like that Spike seems to be the best option for myself also.

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Re: Scorcher NPT - Old School
« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2012, 01:02:33 PM »
Scott,
Where was the PSA prior to drilling it and then after?  And, what do you think about doing this to my Midnight Scorcher? Just curious, because it flares a ton and rolls out. I know that it isn't suppose to hook a lot, but I'd like it to roll better. Maybe a continuous arch all the way to the pins like I thought it would. Or am I being too hopeful here?


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Re: Scorcher NPT - Old School
« Reply #20 on: January 29, 2012, 06:36:03 AM »
ch_flash,

 

Have you tried giving your midnight scorcher some loft?  I've found I bleed soooooooo much energy with mine if the heads don't have a ton of oil, and then it rolls out on me.  But if I give it about 5-8 feet of loft it's almost like a completely different ball.  I know that much loft isn't everyone's favorite idea, but I thought I might throw it out there.



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Re: Scorcher NPT - Old School
« Reply #21 on: January 29, 2012, 06:49:19 AM »
FYI.....IMO yes the Midnight Scorcher is a condition specific ball and most have always stated that.  It's not a house shot type ball but for heavy oil when there is enough volume in the heads and the area where you are playing.  I've found that it ONLY worked well for me down and in and NOT covering very many boards just as the AMB particle also works the best when used this way.  The bowlers that have the biggest issues with these balls are using them on too light of a condition.  Heavy oil or put it away.  The NPT is a different animal and urethane like NPT=non-particle technology.  You still need a moderate amount of lane conditioner across the lane on wet/dry it can also puke out.  For true wet/dry there are better options if playing to the outside in friction.  As far as I know the Scorchers are y-spinners.  This whole y-spin and z-pin issue has made me rethink a lot of lay outs on why I had issues with all the newer VBP asymmetricals.  Money down the tube.  Oh well.

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Re: Scorcher NPT - Old School
« Reply #22 on: January 29, 2012, 09:11:28 AM »
It may just be an issue with not clearing my thumb. I can throw it no-thumb and it rolls great, but with my thumb in it, not so good.
That is the only reason I asked.
Thanks. I'll recheck the fit.


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Re: Scorcher NPT - Old School
« Reply #23 on: January 29, 2012, 06:06:05 PM »
Seeing this topic kicked up to the top a few times made me decide to try my old NPT again.
 
Took it to sport league - 40' Athens.  NPT had a nice smooth move with a little backend hook to keep me in play most of the match.  3rd game I was thinking I needed to switch balls but I didn't until the tenth - struck out with the B/G Centaur.  The Centaur seems to be a step down for me from the NPT.  
 
I liked what I saw with the NPT.  I seem to recall that years ago I did not like how the NPT was reacting on the lanes, but on the Athens it was holding the line nicely.   So thanks to Scott for reminding me about this ball.
 


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Re: Scorcher NPT - Old School
« Reply #24 on: January 31, 2012, 11:39:24 PM »
Gary just saw your post.  Yes agreed NPT is great on semi blended lanes that have a bit of volume most would term medium and no more.  I use the NPT on older wood that is a decent blend and maul them.  Just don't see enough blend too much wet/dry walls.  I've been using an Ogre SS with some surface for that.
 
MI 2 AZ wrote on 1/29/2012 7:06 PM:
Seeing this topic kicked up to the top a few times made me decide to try my old NPT again.
 
Took it to sport league - 40' Athens.  NPT had a nice smooth move with a little backend hook to keep me in play most of the match.  3rd game I was thinking I needed to switch balls but I didn't until the tenth - struck out with the B/G Centaur.  The Centaur seems to be a step down for me from the NPT.  
 
I liked what I saw with the NPT.  I seem to recall that years ago I did not like how the NPT was reacting on the lanes, but on the Athens it was holding the line nicely.   So thanks to Scott for reminding me about this ball.
 


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