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Beef STL

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Views on this?
« on: May 29, 2006, 01:14:54 AM »

So, there have been a few matters circulating as the talk of junior bowling lately.  Even though I am moving up to the adult ranks next year, I sympathize with the junior program, and the direction it's heading after the USBC took over.
 
The first is next year's ring situation for Junior Bowlers.  We're being told that it has been passed that next year junior bowlers will NOT get rings for any accomplishments.  Instead, bowlers will get some kind of metal.  I know that personally, metals are sometimes hung for me, but a ring is a much bigger deal.  If you want a ring next year, be prepared to pay $80 for it.  PLUS the junior's dues are going up again.  Paying as much as the adults.  Their excuse... "The rings are a violation to some NCAA organizations" or something like that.

The other thing that is talk around here is how "within five years," as soon as a Junior Bowler graduates high school, they have to move up to the adult ranks.  I don't really understand this decision much, and I know I lasted as long as I can go in juniors, and am at that age to move up.  Only reason I stayed down is for JOG.  I know personally, I didn't go to my first JOG event until I was 20 years old.  It was really a life changing experience for me, and a big boost in my mental game, and it wouldn't have happened if I would have had to move up to adults right after I graduate.  It's unfortunate to think that 18 & 19 year olds are going to have to come right out of juniors and face against the toughest of competition.  Sure, it's going to be good for some.  Sure, it's going to be good for a select few that can beat them.  But what about the kids that get smashed week in and week out.  They're wanting to get the adult bowlers numbers back up, but I think this is going to make it go down a bit more, while taking the junior program with it.

Here's my question

What's the incentives to stay down in juniors now?  They've taken away some of the select few there are.

So bowl your 300s and 800s this year kids.

/end rant


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bowlingmaniac017

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« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2006, 10:29:44 AM »
Also they have taken away match play for Junior Gold next year. Im going to stay down to get more experience in ALL the tournaments I can. How can you find tournaments in your area?
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« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2006, 10:31:56 AM »
Instead of taking the awards away from all of the Junior Bowlers, there should be an alternate plan for USBC.  On the honor score forms there should be boxes asking what year in school we are in and some sort of box we can check that states that we are not bowling High School or NCAA.  Have the parents sign it too.  That would take the liability off USBC.  

Even though I haven't shot a 300, I am not bowling High School or Bowling NCAA in College.  I would like to stay a junior a couple more years.  I also fear Junior Membership will drop off for the better junior bowlers.  The better juniors will go adult that much quicker if USBC still proposes this plan.

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« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2006, 10:54:37 AM »
Instead of taking the awards away from all of the Junior Bowlers, there should be an alternate plan for USBC. On the honor score forms there should be boxes asking what year in school we are in and some sort of box we can check that states that we are not bowling High School or NCAA. Have the parents sign it too. That would take the liability off USBC.

Even though I haven't shot a 300, I am not bowling High School or Bowling NCAA in College. I would like to stay a junior a couple more years. I also fear Junior Membership will drop off for the better junior bowlers. The better juniors will go adult that much quicker if USBC still proposes this plan.


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Agreed! Ive been bowling since I was 16 and now Im 19. I have been out of High School for 1 year. I plan on really getting back into it this fall and trying to bowl for a college my Junior Year, but as of right now I want to stay in Jr.s to get more experience. I like that idea that if your not in high school they should have a box that says that and you can still get your ring. Now we have to cough up money for those. I bet parents will love buying their kid a class ring, a 300 ring, and or an 800 ring...
Mike

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« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2006, 11:08:59 AM »
Making the youth membership stop at the end of high school is ridiculous.  Some people (myself included 20 years ago) are not ready to bowl adult leagues when they are just out of high school.  If they want to cut the age limit back to 19 instead of 21, I could probably go along with that.

Youth bowlers, don't feel too bad about losing your rings.  They didn't start awarding them until 89-90, so people (like me) who shot 300/800 before then got $2 plaques.  I have heard rumors that ALL awards (including ALL adult awards) will be abolished in the next 5 years.  Yet, our dues continue to increase.  Maybe we should all have the goal of getting USBC jobs?

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« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2006, 02:14:46 PM »
Hello,

JBT SW events will continue to offer the same high quality events it always has next season, with or without USBC's blessing- for all age and average juniors.. that's age 6 to age 21.

We plan on conducting approximately 100 tournaments, each with a minimum $1,000 scholarship prize fund.  In all, we expect to award nearly $250,000 in scholarships in 2006-07.  Honor score rings, etc. will be available one way or the other.  The east coast JBT, a group we branched off from, has great plans also.

So... if you live in Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada, California, Washington, Orgeon, or the northeast.... stay junior.  If you have local tours like ours that are also willing to STAND UP FOR YOU (there are many great tours out there), stay junior. If not, ask them why.  If you don't like their answers... the choice is yours.  Going adult is absolutely not all it's cracked up to be!

I recommend visiting http://forums.bowl.com/AddPost.aspx?PostID=113992 for another informative discussion of these issues.

Thanks,
Jeff


Edited on 6/1/2006 2:12 PM