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900 Global New Releases
« on: May 17, 2016, 07:14:35 PM »
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Re: 900 Global New Releases
« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2016, 05:30:54 PM »
Question. Why would anyone buy 2 balls with the same cover and finish as well as core numbers, but 1 with asymmetry and the other without? You can have 400 in both or buy a Difference for $350! Sorry, I had too  ;D

I don't think having both balls in the lineup is for people to necessarily buy both. You just gain some different options in the marketplace. For those of us who bowl a lot of tournaments on more than house shots I actually think having both could be beneficial

I've always been more of a fan of symmetric cored balls and if these had been out last year, I probably would have bought the Truth but I have a Motiv Revolt Havoc that fits that spot in my bag.

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Re: 900 Global New Releases
« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2016, 09:38:35 AM »
Hey Billdozer,
 Sorry for just replying back to you. The reason why I say first time in bowling history is because of the fact that when other companies tried to make both asymmetric and symmetric cores, shapes were the same, but true core numbers were different. For instance, let's look at the Pursuit and Pursuit-S. Pursuit was a very low mass bias core with numbers of 2.49 RG, .054 Diff & .008 Int Diff. The Pursuit-S had the symmetric version with numbers of 2.51 RG, .056 Diff & 0.000 Int Diff. Now the numbers are close, but not the same. Also the asymmetry of the Pursuit is truly not high enough to make a big difference. As per most designers, it takes a .010 or higher int diff undrilled core to really make mass bias play a huge role in terms of ball reaction. Also the Pursuit and Pursuit-s had pretty close to the same core shape, but they did change the shape to create the asymmetry. So looking at the Inception and Truth, you have the same core shape, same core numbers, the only change is .024 Int Diff which is pretty big asymmetry in the Inception and in the Truth, Int. Diff is .000. I also want to bring up the I-Core from Track as well. So if you look at the Paradox and Track Tour Sic, the core shape is no doubt the same. The big difference of core is when changing densities to go from an asymmetric core in the Paradox to the Tour Sic, you see a big difference in core numbers, which definitely isn't a bad thing. I just believe that what 900 Global has created is truly a game changer. If you ever get a chance to talk to Pros, they will be honest and tell you there are some days where a symmetric core goes through the pins better for carry, and there are some days where asymmetrical cores go through the pins better. I think both balls no doubt have a place in the bag for tournament players. I also believe that for some average league bowlers, it will depend on rev rate for which ball you really want if you can't have both. Lower rev players should like the quicker change of direction with the asymmetric core in the Inception, higher rev players will enjoy the blended reaction from the symmetric core in the Truth. I hope I could not only clear some things up, but even try to help put it in simpler terms. If you have any other questions feel free to ask. I will try to explain the best way I can.
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« Reply #18 on: May 20, 2016, 07:32:32 AM »
Thanks Curt! Makes perfect sense, we were talking about it at league last night, believe it or not!
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Re: 900 Global New Releases
« Reply #19 on: May 20, 2016, 09:47:27 AM »
Glad I could help billdozer. Also glad to hear you all talking about the new releases at league. Really think that 900 Global is really getting stronger as a brand. Also I really think the new AMF releases fit specific spots that gives even more options to the entire 900 Global/AMF300 lineup. Let me know if you have any other questions.
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Re: 900 Global New Releases
« Reply #20 on: May 20, 2016, 12:57:40 PM »
Is the drift above the special ops? I'm confused because it seems so but how since they are same surface prep but ops has a higher cover? Is it core?

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Re: 900 Global New Releases
« Reply #21 on: May 20, 2016, 01:00:42 PM »
Is the drift above the special ops? I'm confused because it seems so but how since they are same surface prep but ops has a higher cover? Is it core?

No. Special Ops has stronger cover and core

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Re: 900 Global New Releases
« Reply #22 on: May 20, 2016, 04:49:34 PM »
900 Global is getting really popular in Vegas and a lot of the big tournaments I see coming through here. A lot of the guys at the top of stuff are throwing Global. These look like 5 solid additions into what already might arguably be a #2 brand right now to Storm over Roto Grip, top to bottom reaction wise.

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Re: 900 Global New Releases
« Reply #23 on: May 20, 2016, 04:53:46 PM »
900 Global is getting really popular in Vegas and a lot of the big tournaments I see coming through here. A lot of the guys at the top of stuff are throwing Global.

I've noticed that too when I've taken the hour and a half drive to bowl a few tournaments in Vegas

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« Reply #24 on: May 20, 2016, 10:35:52 PM »
These look like 5 solid additions into what already might arguably be a #2 brand right now to Storm over Roto Grip, top to bottom reaction wise.

I was thinking the same.  900 global looks very complete as a brand, top to bottom.  As a storm guy, I feel there's alot coming from left field lately...don't understand some of the additions, but at the se time I understand they are trying g to fill gaps Idk..
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Re: 900 Global New Releases
« Reply #25 on: May 20, 2016, 11:03:43 PM »
Even though I'm out of bowling for 6-7 months I've already put my order in for a Special Ops and Drift
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Re: 900 Global New Releases
« Reply #26 on: May 21, 2016, 09:44:24 AM »
These look like 5 solid additions into what already might arguably be a #2 brand right now to Storm over Roto Grip, top to bottom reaction wise.

I was thinking the same.  900 global looks very complete as a brand, top to bottom.  As a storm guy, I feel there's alot coming from left field lately...don't understand some of the additions, but at the se time I understand they are trying g to fill gaps Idk..
I've been thinking about switching away from Storm a lot more and now I believe I could exclusively throw 900G/AMF. Before these came out, I noticed a lot of their upper line stuff rolls like Storms good stuff before they started trying to be innovative. With the new stuff, it's going to be even better!
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Re: 900 Global New Releases
« Reply #27 on: May 21, 2016, 09:52:32 AM »
These look like 5 solid additions into what already might arguably be a #2 brand right now to Storm over Roto Grip, top to bottom reaction wise.

I was thinking the same.  900 global looks very complete as a brand, top to bottom.  As a storm guy, I feel there's alot coming from left field lately...don't understand some of the additions, but at the se time I understand they are trying g to fill gaps Idk..
I've been thinking about switching away from Storm a lot more and now I believe I could exclusively throw 900G/AMF. Before these came out, I noticed a lot of their upper line stuff rolls like Storms good stuff before they started trying to be innovative. With the new stuff, it's going to be even better!
these are Storm covers. Just different cores.

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« Reply #28 on: May 21, 2016, 11:17:12 AM »
These look like 5 solid additions into what already might arguably be a #2 brand right now to Storm over Roto Grip, top to bottom reaction wise.

I was thinking the same.  900 global looks very complete as a brand, top to bottom.  As a storm guy, I feel there's alot coming from left field lately...don't understand some of the additions, but at the se time I understand they are trying g to fill gaps Idk..
I've been thinking about switching away from Storm a lot more and now I believe I could exclusively throw 900G/AMF. Before these came out, I noticed a lot of their upper line stuff rolls like Storms good stuff before they started trying to be innovative. With the new stuff, it's going to be even better!
these are Storm covers. Just different cores.

Right. Are they still a 900g core for the 3 color pours? Dream/inception line, and respect/truth line?

Cuz they look like storm cores kinda

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Re: 900 Global New Releases
« Reply #29 on: May 21, 2016, 07:48:11 PM »
As far as I am aware tri-color pours are going down at the S.A. plant as of the Dream Big Pearl and Respect Solid. Looks to be a tri-color pour on the Escape as well. From my understanding 900 Global cores with those mentioned previously. I cannot comment on any of the upcoming releases. I apologize for any confusion or misleading information on my original post.
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Re: 900 Global New Releases
« Reply #30 on: May 21, 2016, 08:48:00 PM »
Tri-color pours are going down at the S.A. plant as of the Dream Big Pearl and Respect Solid. Tri-color pours on Escape and Great Escape. 900 Global cores as well.

That's interesting. Is any 900 Global stuff being poured in Utah now? What about vice versa with Storm/Roto Grip stuff being poured in San Antonio? I haven't paid very close attention to the situation but I never really had a clear picture of what was going on.