Author Topic: I need a 3 ball arsenal.. Time for suggestions (Read 5067 times)

mj79 · « **on:** March 29, 2010, 12:51:59 PM »

A few of you may have seem my previous posts and/or threads, But just a quick background .. Im 30 Ive been bowling since I was 5 ( off and on since I was 20 ) and have been out of the game since 2006 when I had a nail go through my hand at work which causes me alot of nerve and tendon damage, But now I 'think' Im back to near 100% usability

I just got a new Diamondback drilled a little weak ( from what Ive been told ) @ 3 3/4 Right , 3/4 down, 5 1/2 x 3 1/2 .. And Its a good out of the bag ball to check lanes and is currently my only strike ball .. Im about 16.0-16.5 ball speed , and around 320 rev.. The guy at the pro shop tole me I should look for a new polished ball to compliment the matte Diamondback.. But he told me not to get something very aggressive ( Invasion , 3.5, evil siege etc ) and Im not sure why other than the fact that with my spped and rev rate I wouldnt need it..??

I know its all about how a ball is drilled so maybe its just his way of saying I have a good speed and get good hand on the ball and he could drill something thats cheaper, a little more aggressive..??

What do you guys think?
--------------------
Brunswick Diamondback
Brunswick T Zone
Brunswick Danger Zone Black Ice

16.5 mph ball speed
330 Rev

Work in progress

BrunsBrent · « **Reply #1 on:** March 30, 2010, 02:05:56 AM »

well mj, from what i take from your post is that you need a different look than what you have with your DB, maybe something that gets down the lane a little easier but doesn''t sacrifice backend or carry. if you want to stay with brunswick id look at the C-System 2.5 with some polish, or maybe a rattler. if you want to look at other companies for options i would say the storm Reign, or hammer burn. put your favorite layout on any of them and then change surface as needed. hope this helps!
--------------------
You might recognize me from such films as... "how to pre-bowl 900"

my stuff:http://photobucket.com/Brunsbrentarsenal

http://www.Brunsnick.com

Edited on 3/30/2010 2:06 AM

mj79 · « **Reply #2 on:** March 30, 2010, 02:15:05 AM »

Thanks alot Brent! Yea he recommended the Reign, the rattler , sharp noize, cell pearl.. The problem is I have YET to throw a game on fresh oil, so I really dont know how my DB reacts on heavier patterns yet.. The reason I didnt want to get something like a rattler, cell , reign etc is because i didnt think it would have the potential in the back end.. I dont have the highest rev or speed but i turn hard and early, without alot of ball speed, so I think it will lose its punch in the backend ( roll out..? ) sorry pretty new to all the terms

quote:
well mj, from what i take from your post is that you need a different look than what you have with your DB, maybe something that gets down the lane a little easier but doesn''t sacrifice backend or carry. if you want to stay with brunswick id look at the C-System 2.5 with some polish, or maybe a rattler. if you want to look at other companies for options i would say the storm Reign, or hammer burn. put your favorite layout on any of them and then change surface as needed. hope this helps!
--------------------
You might recognize me from such films as... "how to pre-bowl 900"

my stuff:http://photobucket.com/Brunsbrentarsenal

http://www.Brunsnick.com

Edited on 3/30/2010 2:06 AM

--------------------
Brunswick Diamondback
Brunswick T Zone
Brunswick Danger Zone Black Ice

16.5 mph ball speed
330 Rev

Work in progress

mj79 · « **Reply #3 on:** March 30, 2010, 02:15:32 AM »

oh BTW.. Nice collection

--------------------
Brunswick Diamondback
Brunswick T Zone
Brunswick Danger Zone Black Ice

16.5 mph ball speed
330 Rev

Work in progress

BrunsBrent · « **Reply #4 on:** March 30, 2010, 02:38:26 AM »

thanks for the compliments! but your rev rate is roughly the same as mine except you throw it a little faster and the reign is one of the biggest backend monsters ive ever seen.
--------------------
You might recognize me from such films as... "how to pre-bowl 900"

my stuff:http://photobucket.com/Brunsbrentarsenal

http://www.Brunsnick.com

mj79 · « **Reply #5 on:** March 30, 2010, 02:57:44 AM »

ok then.. Thats what ive heard about the reign too... So WHAT makes the reign a backend monster and comparable to the 3.5 or evil siege/? I thought THOSE were hook monsters
--------------------
Brunswick Diamondback
Brunswick T Zone
Brunswick Danger Zone Black Ice

16.5 mph ball speed
330 Rev

Work in progress

BrunsBrent · « **Reply #6 on:** March 30, 2010, 01:32:07 PM »

well i dont own a 3.5, however i do own a reign and evil siege, both drilled different with different surfaces. the main difference i see that the ES is super strong and much more smooth than you would expect from a pearl. and the reign is just a skid/snap beast. i can score big with both when the lane permits me to. but i havent thrown a CS 3.5 to add to the comparison.
--------------------
You might recognize me from such films as... "how to pre-bowl 900"

my stuff:http://photobucket.com/Brunsbrentarsenal

http://www.Brunsnick.com

mj79 · « **Reply #7 on:** March 30, 2010, 02:06:43 PM »

SO by comparison , whats the difference between a reign and a virtual energy? I just thought if I was looking for a ball to skid/flip and handle the heavy oil I would want something higher up on the scale?
--------------------
Brunswick Diamondback
Brunswick T Zone
Brunswick Danger Zone Black Ice

16.5 mph ball speed
330 Rev

Work in progress

BrunsBrent · « **Reply #8 on:** March 30, 2010, 02:18:47 PM »

LOL funny you say that, i drilled up a virtual energy looking for skid/flip and its not that sort of ball. deff more rolly than one would expect.
--------------------
You might recognize me from such films as... "how to pre-bowl 900"

my stuff:http://photobucket.com/Brunsbrentarsenal

http://www.Brunsnick.com

mj79 · « **Reply #9 on:** March 30, 2010, 02:25:30 PM »

so the VE might just be a "semi" pearl version of my DB that is more aggressive? All im trying to figure out is something to compliment my DB, Which is ok for medium oil, but I would like something more aggressive and for heavier oil.. Like I said in my OP, Its not drilled that aggressive to begin with , so Im pretty sure I have quite a few options

.. How about the rattler compared to the reign , both drilled to have a good backend?
--------------------
Brunswick Diamondback
Brunswick T Zone
Brunswick Danger Zone Black Ice

16.5 mph ball speed
330 Rev

Work in progress

kidlost2000 · « **Reply #10 on:** March 31, 2010, 01:48:19 PM »

I would consider a Wild Thing. Drill it up and try it out with your DB and then see if you need another ball weaker then both or maybe a polished solid to try and go in between the two.

I have a Diamond Back Pearl(overseas ball) and it is amazingly strong on the backends. Hands down stronger then any other ball I've thrown.(also not a Rattle as many seem to think by any means, much stronger) So I wonder how close the Diamond Back Solid would be if it were sanded up to 2000-4000 grit and polished.

If you liked the Wild Thing, DB combo and needed something a little weaker I would then consider a Python.
--------------------
" men lie, women lie, numbers don't "

shepd1999 · « **Reply #11 on:** March 31, 2010, 04:15:34 PM »

I would Recomend a Pure Swing by Columbia. Its the first non-brunswick ball I have rolled in a while. It is currently my fav. ball to start with on fresh oil and it has a nice skid/filp reaction with great pin action.

Ironhead · « **Reply #12 on:** March 31, 2010, 04:44:39 PM »

I like the Columbia Pure swing I would recomend anything but Brunswick ( Made in Mexico) buy American

BrunsBrent · « **Reply #13 on:** March 31, 2010, 05:07:01 PM »

ironhead.... stop trying to pick fights.

quote:
I like the Columbia Pure swing I would recomend anything but Brunswick ( Made in Mexico) buy American

--------------------
You might recognize me from such films as... "how to pre-bowl 900"

my stuff:http://photobucket.com/Brunsbrentarsenal

http://www.Brunsnick.com

mj79 · « **Reply #14 on:** March 31, 2010, 07:36:52 PM »

thanks guys.. Just curious, when are this years new balls coming out? Im assuming towards the end of the year?
--------------------
Brunswick Diamondback
Brunswick T Zone
Brunswick Danger Zone Black Ice

16.5 mph ball speed
330 Rev

Work in progress

Author Topic: I need a 3 ball arsenal.. Time for suggestions (Read 5067 times)

mj79

I need a 3 ball arsenal.. Time for suggestions

BrunsBrent

Re: I need a 3 ball arsenal.. Time for suggestions

mj79

Re: I need a 3 ball arsenal.. Time for suggestions

mj79

Re: I need a 3 ball arsenal.. Time for suggestions

BrunsBrent

Re: I need a 3 ball arsenal.. Time for suggestions

mj79

Re: I need a 3 ball arsenal.. Time for suggestions

BrunsBrent

Re: I need a 3 ball arsenal.. Time for suggestions

mj79

Re: I need a 3 ball arsenal.. Time for suggestions

BrunsBrent

Re: I need a 3 ball arsenal.. Time for suggestions

mj79

Re: I need a 3 ball arsenal.. Time for suggestions

kidlost2000

Re: I need a 3 ball arsenal.. Time for suggestions

shepd1999

Re: I need a 3 ball arsenal.. Time for suggestions

Ironhead

Re: I need a 3 ball arsenal.. Time for suggestions

BrunsBrent

Re: I need a 3 ball arsenal.. Time for suggestions

mj79

Re: I need a 3 ball arsenal.. Time for suggestions