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smash8-10split

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well i broke down and did it...
« on: February 12, 2007, 12:52:54 PM »
Ordered my Total Nv tonight.

requested a 2 inch pin, and a 2-3 oz top.

gonna drill in pin under ring, with the mb about 1 1/2- 2 inches beside the thumb.


anyone had any luck with this drilling?
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Re: well i broke down and did it...
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2007, 08:56:00 PM »
I threw one like that before I ordered mine. Way too early for me. I went with a pin high layout and it is still a bit early, but workable. I shoot on a 41' medium/heavy wood.





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Re: well i broke down and did it...
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2007, 08:58:50 PM »
even with the 4000 abralon, plus polish OOB??
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Re: well i broke down and did it...
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2007, 09:13:27 PM »
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even with the 4000 abralon, plus polish OOB??
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     Oob was too early until the oil moved. With carry down I got irratics over/under. Never knew what the ball wa going to do. So, when I drilled mine, I used a 5 X 70* which for me is pin over ring and MB about 1" right of theumb. Nearly stacked, actually. I probably should have gone 5.5 X 70*. I had to take the cover to 4K abralon to stop the irratic squirt. Now it's predictable and very very strong.




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Re: well i broke down and did it...
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2007, 09:16:55 PM »
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Re: well i broke down and did it...
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2007, 09:17:21 PM »
so i might be clueless here by asking but,  Isn't the pin over ring/pin under ring just about the same drilling?  Going by distance to PAP's?  The pin under i would think might be a little smoother and reads just a little earlier?

greg im not calling you a liar by any means, i just had that question.  Maybe someone can chime in here.


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even with the 4000 abralon, plus polish OOB??
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     Oob was too early until the oil moved. With carry down I got irratics over/under. Never knew what the ball wa going to do. So, when I drilled mine, I used a 5 X 70* which for me is pin over ring and MB about 1" right of theumb. Nearly stacked, actually. I probably should have gone 5.5 X 70*. I had to take the cover to 4K abralon to stop the irratic squirt. Now it's predictable and very very strong.




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smash8-10split

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Re: well i broke down and did it...
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2007, 09:19:44 PM »
i just knew you were gonna say somethin haha.  Well i guess i figured i would buy one since you were not going to come off with yours.





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Re: well i broke down and did it...
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2007, 09:29:32 PM »

  Higher the pin, later the read. Lower pin, earlier read. No, not massive difference, but instead of drilling pin under middle I go with high pins. For my game I drill everything with high pins now. If you've never tried it I suggest you do. FOR ME, a higher pin gives better length and stronger movement.




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Re: well i broke down and did it...
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2007, 09:48:27 PM »
i agree with you greg,long and strong on the back.
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Re: well i broke down and did it...
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2007, 10:11:26 PM »
Also, a side note on pin height.  For me, i almost HAVE to have the pin either even with the ring, or higher.  If i go with a pin in the palm, i have to use a low weight hole to move the track up a bit, otherwise i hit the thumbhole.  

Typically high trackers tend to hit the finger or the thumb with lower pins.  

Personally, for my TNV, ill be drilling a variation of the tommy jones layout.  Ill go 4.5 P2P, 1.5" from the VAL as opposed to 1" from VAL, & a 75º MB instead of the 90º they use for the TJ layout.  This should give a slightly earlier read, as well as a little stronger back end.  For me this should work out nicely, i tend to have problems with balls checking up early, or burning a little too much energy b4 the break point.  This lowers my carry percentage greatly, & makes me use speed & go up the boards, even when the shot is deeper.  When shots get overly deep, my weaker equipment wont recover on the back, & my stronger equipment still wants to roll early.  

My TNV is being drilled to try to help me open up the lanes on my dungeon version of a THS.  It IS easy, but probably on the VERY hard side of easy.  If u can play the shot, u can score all day, if u dont have something to cover the boards but get down the lane, ur dead in the water.

BTW, my house has 15-20 year old wood lanes & uses a 15 year old silver bullet(old pad style) oil machine that doesnt work so great.

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Re: well i broke down and did it...
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2007, 10:57:57 PM »

What's your rev rate, Kinalyx?
Let me know how that TNV goes.
The house I bowl with is pretty dry and oils only to 35 feet
with minimum units - I think around 3-8 units.
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Re: well i broke down and did it...
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2007, 12:02:15 AM »
my revrate is between 350 & 400 with about 17-18mph for my speed.  Rev rate varies by release of course, ive been known to get as high as 475, but my "average" rev rate is probably closer to 325ish.


Im not too worried about the TNV being too long for me, as i can always take the polish off.  But if i drill it up & its too early, there is only so much u can do to the surface when its already at 4000abralon+polish.


Ill be drilling it up this friday & using it in league on sunday, ill let everyone know how it goes sunday night.


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Re: well i broke down and did it...
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2007, 06:40:09 AM »
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What's your rev rate, Kinalyx?
Let me know how that TNV goes.
The house I bowl with is pretty dry and oils only to 35 feet
with minimum units - I think around 3-8 units.
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  Roy, you dont want the TNV.



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Re: well i broke down and did it...
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2007, 08:29:21 AM »

... why would you say that, Greg.
... is the TNV mostly for medium?
... I was thinking of the trick layout
... thinking that I maybe able to use it
... for short oil and relatively dry lanes
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Re: well i broke down and did it...
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2007, 08:45:38 AM »
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even with the 4000 abralon, plus polish OOB??
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     Oob was too early until the oil moved. With carry down I got irratics over/under. Never knew what the ball wa going to do. So, when I drilled mine, I used a 5 X 70* which for me is pin over ring and MB about 1" right of theumb. Nearly stacked, actually. I probably should have gone 5.5 X 70*. I had to take the cover to 4K abralon to stop the irratic squirt. Now it's predictable and very very strong.

Gregt - You should of read the drill charts and drilled it 45 degrees, plenty enough ball that way. 75 degree is very angular and long, i bet you are missing the friction by going past it when in the oil or checking up to rearly if you get right.  However taking it down a bit helped as well as you did

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