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Mr Buzzsaw

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BuzzBOMB Guarantee
« on: March 03, 2008, 02:38:35 AM »
It has been brought to my attention that some customers have not been happy with the new BuzzBOMB drilled label 1:30. This layout works better for shorter pins, higher tracks, and shorter oil (because this layout goes longer).

I also understand that our drill sheet says this is a 9 backend, which is why some bowlers may not be happy with the result they're getting. Balls that go longer give you more backend, but if the ball goes too long, you won't realize the hook. Maybe I shouldn't have stated such a high backend rating for this layout?

I don't want customers to be dis-satisfied with our product, especially because of an improper layout. So if...

1)Deleon
2)Nicanor
3)the-7-year-itch
4)AK47
5)SprayNpray
6)nowski1381
7)SpecVspeeD03

would have you or your pro shop/driller call us for an RA(return authorization), then send their balls in to our home office listed on our website, we will gladly send you a new one to be drilled differently.

Our tech dept. will discuss the issue with your or your driller to help get you the reaction you're looking for. We look forward to resolving your ball reaction issues and will do the best we can.

 

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Re: BuzzBOMB Guarantee
« Reply #61 on: March 05, 2008, 01:27:20 PM »
GTX,

Let me know the reason why the 2nd set of tests the USBC did showed completely opposite results? In CGNOMADDAH2, the Negative ball was stronger with the exact same parameters. Average out all the results on a long term basis, and they will show an immeasurable difference.


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T-GOD

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Re: BuzzBOMB Guarantee
« Reply #62 on: March 05, 2008, 03:36:09 PM »
Nick, take a BuzzBOMB starting with 2 oz. top and drill it with the pin 6 3/4" from your PAP with the CG 6 3/4", ending with 1oz. bottom.

Now take a second one with 4 oz. top drilled with the pin 6 3/4" from your PAP and the CG kicked out 1" from your grip center to give you 7/8 pos. side.

Don't tell me they will roll the same. But, I'm sure you could flood the lanes enough to make them roll the same if you want. =:^D

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Re: BuzzBOMB Guarantee
« Reply #63 on: March 05, 2008, 04:34:52 PM »
Send me two, I'd be glad to.
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Re: BuzzBOMB Guarantee
« Reply #64 on: March 06, 2008, 12:58:54 AM »
i have some bowling balls finger hole drill 3 inch deep, every time when the lane getting dry, i cut my old towel and put it in the finger hole , thats about 1/8 to 1/4 more finger weight , the ball will go longer , i think everyone can try this to see if the static weight matter or not by
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Re: BuzzBOMB Guarantee
« Reply #65 on: March 06, 2008, 03:22:28 AM »
quote:
GTX,
Let me know the reason why the 2nd set of tests the USBC did showed completely opposite results? In CGNOMADDAH2, the Negative ball was stronger with the exact same parameters. Average out all the results on a long term basis, and they will show an immeasurable difference.



even better, why when the Post-drilling data (according to you) show these 2 balls are almost the same, 2 tests out 3 showed the POS CG dominating !!!!  

avg out all the results !!!
test-1 (Ball motion statistics): POS-CG(7)  NEG-CG(0)
test-2 (Angle Statistics): POS-CG(3)  NEG-CG(3)
test-3 (Additional Properties): POS-CG(4) NEG-CG(1)

POS-CG(14) and NEG-CG(4)
yep, you're right ... immeasurable difference

so let me ask you again, why all your current bowling balls are drilled with POS CG ??  none of them, not even 1 ball is drilled with NEG CG .. I thought you don't care POS CG or NEG CG ... or do you care now ??  

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Re: BuzzBOMB Guarantee
« Reply #66 on: March 06, 2008, 09:26:53 AM »
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Hey keyboard cowboy....

Since the advent of a drill press most people will use a positive CG shift. Why?
To allow a shift in weight in case you want to FINE TUNE REACTION WITH A WEIGHTHOLE LATER!!
And for that reason only!  IF you throw it and it's fine, why change reaction shape with a weighthole.  If you THROW IT and WANT TO TWEAK IT.... THEN YOU CAN  WITH A WEIGHTHOLE  

IF you don't drill balls or at least comprehend the basics, don't challenge someone that does it for a living and has forgotten more about drilling than you will ever know.  This goes for most of you.  And if you have to think about whether or not it applies to you, then guess what?  I'm probaly talking about YOU!

-Quit Complaining and start a Revolution!



why is this even being discussed in this thread, it has absolutely NOTHING to do with the issue at hand
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Re: BuzzBOMB Guarantee
« Reply #67 on: March 06, 2008, 09:36:31 AM »
I have only had one Buzzsaw in my life, a Super Carbide Bomb back in 2001, so I have not had much experience with their equipment in my hands...but, I will say this. For any company to come on here and stand behind their product and beliefs, no matter what their beliefs might be, says much about the leadership of Lane 1.

I have to commend them in the way they handled this situation.

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Re: BuzzBOMB Guarantee
« Reply #68 on: March 06, 2008, 12:59:37 PM »
quote:
Hey keyboard cowboy....
Since the advent of a drill press most people will use a positive CG shift. Why?
To allow a shift in weight in case you want to FINE TUNE REACTION WITH A WEIGHTHOLE LATER!!
And for that reason only!  IF you throw it and it's fine, why change reaction shape with a weighthole.  If you THROW IT and WANT TO TWEAK IT.... THEN YOU CAN  WITH A WEIGHTHOLE  



ah .. so in another word CG DOES MATTER ... thank you very much ...later
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Re: BuzzBOMB Guarantee
« Reply #69 on: March 06, 2008, 01:41:22 PM »
^^^^

LOL.

Are you serious? Was that supposed to be an "IN YOUR FACE!"?
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Re: BuzzBOMB Guarantee
« Reply #70 on: March 06, 2008, 02:05:01 PM »
I don't care if CG matters or not.  Just drill me the ball and as long as it does what I need it to do, then I'm golden.  Nick, send me 2 balls for me to test.  T-God, you can do the same.  I will be more than happy to come to no conclusion with 4 new balls.  lol...  Lighten up fellas.