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Dynamo Ball Of The Year
« on: February 27, 2009, 01:44:37 AM »
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All Sawheads go here and vote Dyanamo as Ball Of The Year it might be the best ball I've ever thrown.

 

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Re: Dynamo Ball Of The Year
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2009, 10:29:55 AM »
. . . too early to say - but quite promising at this point
. . . I'm still tweaking the cover stock
. . . I just polished it with 3M Rubbing compound
. . . and we'll see how it reacts tonight

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Re: Dynamo Ball Of The Year
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2009, 07:54:14 AM »
Final results have been posted.

By actual vote,  the HYROAD was the winner!!!!  The VIRTUAL GRAVITY was 2nd, and the newly released Dynamo was 3rd.
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Re: Dynamo Ball Of The Year
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2009, 08:33:43 AM »
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Final results have been posted.

By actual vote, the HYROAD was the winner!!!! The VIRTUAL GRAVITY was 2nd, and the newly released Dynamo was 3rd.

 


jls: So the way 'Ball of the Year" is determined (in your mind) is a popularity contest?

I think you'd agree that numbers in the market don't necessarily translate to quality/performance. For several years various mid-range Honda's and Toyota's where best selling cars, but no-one would argue they were the best autos to be had.

Logic dictates "Ball of the Year" should follow the same path. Shouldn't it be best performing ball regardless of sales and market share??

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Re: Dynamo Ball Of The Year
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2009, 08:45:13 AM »
The reason why the HyRoad would be the number one ball, is DUE to sales, which generally translate into performance. There is also something to be said in regards to popularity. In this day and age, as quickly as a ball will die in production and sales, when one sales as well and as quickly, i.e. Storm cannot produce enough HyRoads & Virtual Gravity's to keep up with current demands, as well as how many you see in the market place (on the lanes), you would have to say at this point, the HyRoad is the number one ball.


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Re: Dynamo Ball Of The Year
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2009, 10:07:30 AM »
Sales is one a measuring stick, but a sale in and of itself does not mean a ball is #1 in performance.

As you know, proshops are businesses first, and pimps of 'real' balls of the year, second. There are several reasons for this:

1) A good portion of proshop operators are on ball company amateur staffs. Consciously (or not), they're going to push that manufacturers line first.

2) Proshops occasionally get 'deals' from their distributors for purchasing certain models (usually from the big guys) in quantity, which means they can offer a decent piece for $30-40 less than another ball that might be slightly higher performing. It's all about moving inventory, so we know which one will get visibility and shelf space.

It's not a secret that in the majority of proshops, there is more work (and less profit) involved in buying from the smaller companies. By extension, it's going to be difficult for those companies to get the sales to be considered 'ball of the year'.

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Re: Dynamo Ball Of The Year
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2009, 10:16:45 AM »
dynamo is a great ball no doubt
its the most aggresive ball i have used from L1 ever
its like a ferrari imo
fast, sharp corners, and just plain sexy fun, but

my ball of the year from L1 has to go to the chainsaw

i have needed less aggresive for a while, but with more umph than plastic, and i got it w/ the c'saw

c'saw will get most of the action

is it as fun to use as the dynamo, no
but i play this game to win, and the c'saw give a better oppertunity to do that

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« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2009, 10:33:16 AM »
Steven,  Not a contest at all. Real BOELERS were ask to vote for what they felt was their choice for ball of the year.  Most responded based on their experiences with said balls.  

Now Obama was made President due to a popularity contest.<<<< Not good

And believe it or not,  many times when a bowler sees others scoring well with a ball,  they tend to buy it.  Thus accounting for the huge sales of the Virtual and Hyroad.

If you would take the time Steven, may I call you Steven,  you will notice that many members of the FOS voice their views on certain balls.  And others notice this and then buy said ball.  Pot calling the kettle black.

So I think Steven, you may be a little off base, again, with this "popularity" thing your trying to bring up.

People on this site, BR.COM  were asked to vote for their choice for "ball of the year"  they did.  Now live with it, and move on.

BTW, the Dynamo came in a strong third, despite some saying it should not have been counted, for as we all know, except for B-Dawg,  the Dynamo just came out in Jan. of 09, and the first know reviews by mankind were on 2-19-09.  So therefore some people on BR.COM felt it should not have been in the voting for 2008.  But that's their opinion!!!!

Us Sawheads feel it should be counted.

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Re: Dynamo Ball Of The Year
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2009, 10:35:28 AM »
Wow, the FOS sure gets pi**ed when their ball loses, huh?
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Re: Dynamo Ball Of The Year
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2009, 10:42:45 AM »
Steven

You are spinning this no differently.
You can say whatever you want, to discredit a certain ball, but what makes a ball a winner is not the company telling bowlers it's the number one ball. It's the bowlers using them. You can say the only reason why a ball sells in a shop, is do to either being on a staff or getting a deal, is poor to say the least. That is a lame excuse to discredit a well performing and selling bowling ball. Pro shop guys are generally going to sell what they know they can put in their bowlers hands and know will perform, at a good price. I do not know many shops that will recommend, in this day and age, a high dollar ball over a mid priced one.
Versatility is the key factor, a ball that will perform for a wider range of styles. Danger Zone, Red Sun Storm, Absolute Inferno, Black Widows, the Cell Solid and now the HyRoad.

AND Less we forget...IT'S FEBRUARY.

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Re: Dynamo Ball Of The Year
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2009, 10:43:12 AM »
yeah rocker everybody sure seems that way huh.........

what a joke

i seen you get your dig in there jls, although i would have expected more quite honestly
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Re: Dynamo Ball Of The Year
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2009, 11:04:56 AM »
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You can say whatever you want, to discredit a certain ball, but what makes a ball a winner is not the company telling bowlers it's the number one ball. It's the bowlers using them. You can say the only reason why a ball sells in a shop, is do to either being on a staff or getting a deal, is poor to say the least. That is a lame excuse to discredit a well performing and selling bowling ball.  


Rico: Funny, I don't see anywhere in this thread where I 'discredited' a certain ball. I didn't mention any ball for that matter. And, please, tone down references to absolutes. I did not say the reasons I mentioned are the 'only' reason a ball sells in a shop. If you have to resort to extremes to make a point, you're reaching. The fact is that being on staff and having access to distributor deals are a factor in sales. Are you denying this??

 
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Pro shop guys are generally going to sell what they know they can put in their bowlers hands and know will perform, at a good price. I do not know many shops that will recommend, in this day and age, a high dollar ball over a mid priced one.
 


No argument. In general, a proshop will put a good ball in a bowlers hand at a cheaper price than something that might be a little better but more expensive. But does that make the cheaper ball "Ball of the Year"?

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Re: Dynamo Ball Of The Year
« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2009, 11:19:06 AM »
No matter what a shop may get a ball at, whether it be through a distributor or direct, if the ball does not perform, the pro shop operator is not going to push it. I see too many balls, that are released with great opening offers, as well as deals, only to be returned in the end, because of lack of performance or reputation (non-performer).

A ball will sell at a price, sooner or later. It just may take time before that ball gets to that point.
Do I think selling a lower priced ball at $250-299 is a value or makes that ball better-NO. Merely the ball company telling a bowler a ball is number one does not sell it. The bowlers that use it do. And the pro shop operator that sees it performs and has confidence in it will. Whether they get it at full price or at a deal. Plain and simple.

Versatility is what makes Ball of the Year. Not because it hooks more than another. The amount of bowlers that are able to compete with a certain piece consistantly andsuccessfully is what decides it. That is why the bowlers vote for it. Not the pro shops or distributors.
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Re: Dynamo Ball Of The Year
« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2009, 11:32:45 AM »
Steven, B-dawg,  135 people responded.  If you have an issue how they arrived at whatever their choice was for ball of the year, feel free to contact them and ask them why?

BTW,  if you decide to do that, make sure you ask those that voted for Lane #1 balls, why???

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Re: Dynamo Ball Of The Year
« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2009, 11:35:17 AM »
I agree with Rico, I see too many people saying that they can't keep their dynamo on the lane because it hooks too much.  That doesn't make it the ball of the year, it makes it the ball of the year in a bag.  T-road solid won ball of the year in 07 because of its versatility and the cover being able to be tweaked so it could perform on anything.

I'm not saying that the dynamo isn't a great ball, but from what I've heard, it's just too much ball for most conditions out there.  I'll vote it in for "most hookingest ball of the year"
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