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lefty50

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First Lane 1, last Lane 1, Bye bye BuzzBust
« on: April 13, 2008, 06:14:03 PM »
I was going to just sit back and not jump in, but since all the hype cost me $200 plus a lot of pain, I finally decided I just can't sit here and give the BustBomb a free pass.

This review is short and sweet. It is neither for the Lane 1 lovers nor the Lane 1 haters. Both are fringe groups whose opinion doesn't really matter.
This is for the normal guy, like myself, who heard all the build up and may be on the sidelines waiting to buy... Here's an honest review from my first Lane 1 purchase....

There is nothing special about this ball. Save your money. This ball is DOA 99% of the time. I believe I gave it an honest shot. I tried it in four houses plus Nationals, after a 2 week wait for the ball. I tried every possible option, 2 different drills, and every possible surface level from 600 to 4000.
It was at all times a purple marshmellow.
Look back through these threads and you'll even see where I tried to help people figure this thing out before drilling mine. Why oh why was I stupid enough to drill it up after hearing all the bad news? Like I said... no one's fault but my own. Caveat emptor, right?

For me, the BuzzBUST was a total waste of time and money. Another experiment gone bad. Props to the Lane 1 hype crew, you got me. I was tired of Big B and wanted to try something new. I did. I paid for it in more ways than one. So now, it'll go on Ebay this week.

There is, of course, no magic ball.

Funny thing though. After losing big time on the BustBomb, I talked myself into trying another new ball from another new company I've never thrown. Still had courage to try a new company I guess. But this time, I chose a ball based on percentage of positive reviews from average people not associated with the brand and stayed away from choosing balls where there was massive controversy. Wow, what a ball... OOB, it turns out to be what I expected from the BuzzBust. I'm headed to the Roto Grip forum now to give it the props it deserves. I need to give time to the positive as well as the negative.
Lane 1 lovers, write your garbage below this. It won't matter. I'm not going to be back on this forum, so will "regrettably" never see it.

I'm out.
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Re: First Lane 1, last Lane 1, Bye bye BuzzBust
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2008, 02:37:21 AM »
what does DOA mean? I am not familiar with this shortcut....

Dead on Arrival?

was the ball just not working on the intented oil pattern / surface etc... or in general not working?
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Re: First Lane 1, last Lane 1, Bye bye BuzzBust
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2008, 02:49:54 AM »
Probably had 1.5 ounces of bottom weight and 3/4 thumb. A few questions here??

Did your shop operator double check the CG after plugging. What layout did he use and also what statics did the ball have after drilling both times. Was it plugged with a quick plug or 8 hour plug? I am not saying it was drilled wrong or anything like that but the specifics would be nice. I have seen plenty of our balls brought into the booth and I can say that I can't believe some of the layouts and weights people have brought in. I had one the other day with the pin 3.5" from the PAP and the CG was below the thumb hole. There was also no extra hole and it had like 180 grit sand lines on it. Not only was it illegal but this gentelman wanted this ball to go long and this is what he got from his ball driller. He decided to buy a Nova XP and the ball out hooked the BB he showed me by 10 boards down lane. Now here is a guy that can hate the BB becasue it doesn't do what he asked for. Is this the balls fault?? This is only 1 example.

Example 2 was a Solid Cobalt Bomb. The pin and CG were above the fingers and the pin was 5.5" from the PAP. It had 4" deep finger holes and a weight hole that was so deep it met the fingers at the bottom. The guy told me he wanted something for heavy oil and this is how it was drilled. He was stunned as he told me the ball was drilled by the best in town.

I am not badmouthing anybody but there are people out there that do not have enough knowledge to be putting holes in these balls. Not just Lane#1 but all companies. There are also too many backyard,garage and basement ball drillers now that really have no clue. I have at least 3-4 per week that come in and brag about drilling their own stuff in the basement or garage. All I can say is you have to see some of these balls to know what I mean. Some have 2 ounces of thumb weight or 2.5 ounces of side weight after they are drilled becasue they do not have a scale. You really would not believe the balls that need corrections at the scale room and how they are drilled. I have seen some with the CG's on the sides of the balls and the extra holes on the other side. I'm talking 8 inches from the center of the grip. Real doozy's.

I just would not be surprised if these problems were present on the balls that people have not had luck with..

My Tip to backyard pro shop wanna be's...

Not a bash here. Just pay some extra cash and go to a pro shop class. There are several available from Ebonite to Jayhawk to pro shop guys that are willing to teach.

Spend the money..It is worth it.

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Re: First Lane 1, last Lane 1, Bye bye BuzzBust
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2008, 02:55:56 AM »
For me, I don't really like the BuzzBomb very much.
It's in my hate list balls. Looks like I'll never
have a really good matchup with the Bomb cores. I don't
dump Lane #1 altogether because there are other Lane #1
balls that fit my game especially the ones with C/2 and
standard diamond cores.
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Re: First Lane 1, last Lane 1, Bye bye BuzzBust
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2008, 09:55:55 AM »
I bought 3 Lane 1 balls last year and loved them. I raised my average 16 pins with them. (Enriched Uranium - Solid Cobalt Bomb - Red XXXL) However, they were Brunswick made balls. I haven't bought another Lane 1 since they quit Brunswick because of them not getting settled down with one company thus making me a bit leary of their new balls coverstock quality and performance, until proven the new company's manufacturer of the balls is as good as Brunswick's was.

I do love the Lane 1 balls of the past. As said, for the reasons mentioned I haven't tried the newer ones for fear they might not match up to the performance of the older ones. I have been waiting on proof that the newer ones will perform as well as the older ones, but from what I consider the "way-way overdoing of the hype about the balls" by bowlers that are committed to Lane 1, it has scared me off and I went elsewhere and purchased a couple balls from 2 other companies and I am very happy with both balls.

I totally understand where lefty50 is coming from in his topic as well as sympathize with him, as I got caught up in a similiar situtation with Track and similar hype a couple years ago by bowlers committed to Track. You don't know how many times I "almost" bought this new Buzz Bomb, but everytime I came oohh sooo close, a 6th sense told me not to. I simply can't see a ball that is supposedly as strong as the Buzz bomb is supposed to be, working on all of the various conditions some were claiming to use it on. And then to have to polish it with a polish that makes some balls skid thru the break point to make it work didn't make sense either. I figured rather than go thru all of that, just buy a ball that wasn't as strong. I mean why buy the strongest ball on the market and then polish the "H" out of it to tame it down so you can bowl with it. Just buy a ball for the condition a person wants to bowl on. The last factor of me mot buying it is that I never see heavy oil. I see lots of medium and a bit stronger, but never heavy oil. Those are the factors that turned me away from the Buzz Bomb.


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Re: First Lane 1, last Lane 1, Bye bye BuzzBust
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2008, 10:07:21 AM »
i thought statics and cgnomaddah...

oh yea..
http://www.brunsnick.com/xhole2.html

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Re: First Lane 1, last Lane 1, Bye bye BuzzBust
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2008, 10:27:46 AM »
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This review is short and sweet. It is neither for the Lane 1 lovers nor the Lane 1 haters. Both are fringe groups whose opinion doesn't really matter.



So unless you're "Joe Bowler" in the local beer league, your opinion doesn't matter? Now that's sweet....

After lefty50's last 'contributions', I didn't expect much substance in any of his future posts. So again, he came through and lived down to expectations. His post was more of a thinly veiled attack on Lane#1 than a legitimate post on the BuzzBomb that, good or bad, could assist others in their own decision making process.

My only comment here is that every ball has some merit and that the BuzzBomb cannot be as bad as the lefty50 is making it out to be. Even recent busts such as the Fury, when drilled and prepared properly, have their niche. Legitimate posts point these things out. But our friend lefty50 never intended to provide balance from the get-go.  

At least another troll is moving on to more fertile hunting grounds. Happy journey.  


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Re: First Lane 1, last Lane 1, Bye bye BuzzBust
« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2008, 10:29:04 AM »
get a cell and then youll b n business

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Re: First Lane 1, last Lane 1, Bye bye BuzzBust
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2008, 10:32:21 AM »
Lane 1 lovers, write your garbage below this. It won't matter. I'm not going to be back on this forum, so will "regrettably" never see it.

I'm out.

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Re: First Lane 1, last Lane 1, Bye bye BuzzBust
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2008, 11:01:06 AM »
LEFTY .. I also have the BuzzBomb .. I think you presented your opinion very well! You suggested trying different drills and different conditions and were not satisfied with the results. I think you even gave CREDIT to the Lane 1 groups for getting you to buy/try the ball and asked for drilling help before you drilled .. all you did was FAIR! I think it was FAIR that you come back and give your opinion!

I have not tried my BuzzBomb although I have it over a month. From what I've read .. it would not surprise me if I am NOT happy with the ball!

LEFTY you also mention another companies ball and then say ROTO GRIP .. I'm sure you are referring to the CELL .. that ball I also have and HAVE USED .. GREAT ball and a GREAT PRICE!

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Re: First Lane 1, last Lane 1, Bye bye BuzzBust
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2008, 11:27:38 AM »
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This review is short and sweet. It is neither for the Lane 1 lovers nor the Lane 1 haters. Both are fringe groups whose opinion doesn't really matter.



So unless you're "Joe Bowler" in the local beer league, your opinion doesn't matter? Now that's sweet....




The Lane 1 haters are going to hate Lane 1 regardless of what happens.  The same goes for the "Sawheads", they are going to love Lane 1 no matter what and go screaming if anyone says anything derogotory.  Since those 2 groups aren't going to change their minds, their "opinions" are less opinions and more "facts" and should be ignored because they aren't going to be impartial.  Every company has those guys, when I'm looking at a new ball, I ignore what the diehards (both the love and the hate guys) say.
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Re: First Lane 1, last Lane 1, Bye bye BuzzBust
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2008, 11:35:07 AM »
funny thing is i really like lane 1 stuff, but dont really buy into their drilling beliefs...is it possible to love lane 1 balls and believe cgnomaddah at the same time...
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Re: First Lane 1, last Lane 1, Bye bye BuzzBust
« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2008, 11:38:56 AM »
IS it me or does this core look somewhat like the
old faball violet 3D offset ball?


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Re: First Lane 1, last Lane 1, Bye bye BuzzBust
« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2008, 01:29:02 PM »
quote:
I bought 3 Lane 1 balls last year and loved them. I raised my average 16 pins with them. (Enriched Uranium - Solid Cobalt Bomb - Red XXXL) However, they were Brunswick made balls. I haven't bought another Lane 1 since they quit Brunswick because of them not getting settled down with one company thus making me a bit leary of their new balls coverstock quality and performance, until proven the new company's manufacturer of the balls is as good as Brunswick's was.

I do love the Lane 1 balls of the past. As said, for the reasons mentioned I haven't tried the newer ones for fear they might not match up to the performance of the older ones. I have been waiting on proof that the newer ones will perform as well as the older ones, but from what I consider the "way-way overdoing of the hype about the balls" by bowlers that are committed to Lane 1, it has scared me off and I went elsewhere and purchased a couple balls from 2 other companies and I am very happy with both balls.

I totally understand where lefty50 is coming from in his topic as well as sympathize with him, as I got caught up in a similiar situtation with Track and similar hype a couple years ago by bowlers committed to Track. You don't know how many times I "almost" bought this new Buzz Bomb, but everytime I came oohh sooo close, a 6th sense told me not to. I simply can't see a ball that is supposedly as strong as the Buzz bomb is supposed to be, working on all of the various conditions some were claiming to use it on. And then to have to polish it with a polish that makes some balls skid thru the break point to make it work didn't make sense either. I figured rather than go thru all of that, just buy a ball that wasn't as strong. I mean why buy the strongest ball on the market and then polish the "H" out of it to tame it down so you can bowl with it. Just buy a ball for the condition a person wants to bowl on. The last factor of me mot buying it is that I never see heavy oil. I see lots of medium and a bit stronger, but never heavy oil. Those are the factors that turned me away from the Buzz Bomb.

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***A well written and rrspected reply.I personnaly love taking really strong solid reactives and polishing them up as opposed to pearl reactive balls. The strangth o fthe cover gives me just a few feet earlier read and more predictable moves in the backend. With my tilt I have to be careful of pearls and weaker covers squirting alot in the backend. I had this problem with the Widow as well before I changed back to 100% Lane#1 equipment. ***

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Re: First Lane 1, last Lane 1, Bye bye BuzzBust
« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2008, 01:39:02 PM »
quote:
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This review is short and sweet. It is neither for the Lane 1 lovers nor the Lane 1 haters. Both are fringe groups whose opinion doesn't really matter.



So unless you're "Joe Bowler" in the local beer league, your opinion doesn't matter? Now that's sweet....

After lefty50's last 'contributions', I didn't expect much substance in any of his future posts. So again, he came through and lived down to expectations. His post was more of a thinly veiled attack on Lane#1 than a legitimate post on the BuzzBomb that, good or bad, could assist others in their own decision making process.

My only comment here is that every ball has some merit and that the BuzzBomb cannot be as bad as the lefty50 is making it out to be. Even recent busts such as the Fury, when drilled and prepared properly, have their niche. Legitimate posts point these things out. But our friend lefty50 never intended to provide balance from the get-go.  

At least another troll is moving on to more fertile hunting grounds. Happy journey.
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  I personally loved the Fury Solid and drilled about a dozen for my customers as it was one of the stronger balls out at the time. I had great success with this ball polished up. I thought this ball had more use than the Widow Solid I had. In the grand scheme of things you have to say the Widow was a way--- more successful ball than the Fury and I happened to think the Fury was so much better. This just proves that not all balls match up to people and their environments they bowl in.


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