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Re: Super Carbide Bomb... Illegal!! Only 2005 Release for the moment
« Reply #121 on: August 24, 2005, 12:33:32 AM »
elnino wrath? ebo killer Insts? (i dont know others) Other BOMBS!?
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Re: Super Carbide Bomb... Illegal!! Only 2005 Release for the moment
« Reply #122 on: August 24, 2005, 01:24:00 AM »
Not making sense though why all of these other balls would start showing up around the same time.

I guess If Mike Savoia talked to Ritchie it must be true though.

Time will tell.

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Re: Super Carbide Bomb... Illegal!! Only 2005 Release for the moment
« Reply #123 on: August 24, 2005, 06:29:06 AM »
This should show us that the "New" USBC is still no better than the old ABC.
There is no attention to details.
There is no direction based on facts at the National level. (aka the weight hole/cg rule attempt)
There is only the desire to make money.

We should be allowed to buy stock in the USBC and vote out the directors just like a large corporation. But we know that will never happen. Maybe if their jobs relied on their job performance like the rest of us they would pay more attention to what the hell they were doing?
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Re: Super Carbide Bomb... Illegal!! Only 2005 Release for the moment
« Reply #124 on: August 25, 2005, 07:16:59 PM »
I hope that this teaches the USBC to do their homework before making rash, wrong decisions.  So, the Polished SCB may still be illegal?

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Re: Super Carbide Bomb... Illegal!! Only 2005 Release for the moment
« Reply #125 on: August 25, 2005, 09:37:04 PM »
I was emailed the following :

Dear Cedron:  FYI - please see the posted press release on this issue - attached as well.  We apologize for the delay in sending out a response, but we were waiting for additional information from the manufacturer.

Best regards,


Neil Stremmel
USBC Technical Director
neil.stremmel@bowl.com
414/423-3385
414/421-5860 (fax)

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August 25, 2005

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
CONTACT: Patrick Brettingen
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(800) 514-BOWL, ext. 3244
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                        USBC REINSTATES LANE #1 BOWLING BALL TO
APPROVED LIST
 
GREENDALE, Wis. - The United States Bowling Congress has returned to
its list of approved equipment the Super Carbide Bomb bowling ball with a
sanded cover manufactured by the Lane #1 company.

USBC originally approved the ball in 2002, but last week removed it
from its list of equipment approved for certified USBC competition after
issues emerged surrounding the release of a different version of the
same ball.

"We have been working with Lane #1 during the last week to resolve
several issues relating to this bowling ball," said USBC Technical Director
Neil Stremmel. "Since we have now worked out the concerns, we have
returned the original version of the Super Carbide Bomb to the list of
approved bowling balls so that bowlers can once again enjoy this product in
all USBC competition."  

A version of the Super Carbide Bomb with a polished cover that was
recently released remains on USBC's list of non-conforming bowling balls
that cannot be used in USBC-certified competition. The polished ball was
advertised as USBC-approved but was never submitted to USBC for
testing.


USBC Specifications and Certification
The USBC Specifications and Certification testing facility, opened in
1977, is an eight-lane center in a climate-controlled building where
team members regulate and standardize bowling equipment by concentrating
on pin and product testing, research work, bowling center certifications
and lane dressing inspections. The staff provides lane-conditioning
support for a variety of tournaments and Sport Bowling events. The
Specifications and Certification team consists of engineers, technicians and
support staff.

Since the mid-1980s, Specifications and Certification has been the only
facility recognized to approve products for international competition
such as the World Tenpin Bowling Association and the Federation
Internationale des Quilleurs.

United States Bowling Congress
The United States Bowling Congress, as the national governing body,
ensures the integrity and protects the future of the sport, provides
programs and services and enhances the bowling experience.
 
USBC officially launched Jan. 1, 2005, as an organization serving more
than three million adult and youth bowlers in the United States. It
resulted from the merger of the American Bowling Congress, Women's
International Bowling Congress, Young American Bowling Alliance and USA
Bowling.

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Re: Super Carbide Bomb... Illegal!! Only 2005 Release for the moment
« Reply #126 on: August 25, 2005, 09:39:53 PM »
This is getting very old, very quickly.

Enough BS. Wait and see what Lane#1 learns. They will tell you publicly, I am sure.

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Re: Super Carbide Bomb... Illegal!! Only 2005 Release for the moment
« Reply #127 on: August 26, 2005, 12:13:52 AM »

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Re: Super Carbide Bomb... Illegal!! Only 2005 Release for the moment
« Reply #128 on: August 26, 2005, 01:06:51 AM »
Just got an e-mail from Mr. Stremmel from USBC on this matter.  I have recently purchased and drilled the polished version of this ball, and am already quite frustrated as I won't be able to use this this coming weekend in my sweepers in Vegas.  From the sounds of the wording of the e-mail it sounds as if the polished version won't be reinstated.  See if you agree, or read differently into it:

Mr Quintana,  please see the posted press release on this issue - attached as
well.  We apologize for the delay in sending out a response, but we were waiting
for additional information from the manufacturer.  If I understand, you recently
purchased a polished Super Carbide Bomb.  While it may have come in a box marked
approved, it was never sent in to us to verify it meets current specifications.
We continue to do our best to insure that the equipment released to the bowling
public is approved for use for all certified competition, however in some cases
cooperation and/or understandings are not enough to verify this will happen.  I
believe Lane #1 will be issuing a stance on this issue and inform their
customers of their plans to fix, replace or otherwise deal with these new balls.
The polished Super Carbide Bomb will remain on the non-conforming list and will
not be allowed in certified competition.  I hope this at least clarifies the
situation for you.  Thank you for your continued support.

Best regards,


Neil Stremmel
USBC Technical Director

Sounds as if USBC is trying to indicate this one was on Lane 1 for not submitting the ball for testing.  I agree this is getting quite old, and very frustrating for the customers.  Lane 1's response to this will be very interesting, and as I believe them to be a quality company, I'm sure they will take every step to resolve it in the best way possible for their customers.  Here's to hoping this gets resolved quickly and efficently.....if that's even possible anymore, lol.

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Re: Super Carbide Bomb... Illegal!! Only 2005 Release for the moment
« Reply #129 on: August 26, 2005, 08:09:40 AM »
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I have recently purchased and drilled the polished version of this ball, and am already quite frustrated as I won't be able to use this this coming weekend in my sweepers in Vegas.


Just strip the polish off no one will know the difference in the two releases unless they have the serial number ranges.  Or if anyone asks, just tell them you polished it yourself.
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Re: Super Carbide Bomb... Illegal!! Only 2005 Release for the moment
« Reply #130 on: August 26, 2005, 10:37:28 AM »
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spite......


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Oh you said "spite" my bad.  

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Re: Super Carbide Bomb... Illegal!! Only 2005 Release for the moment
« Reply #131 on: August 26, 2005, 11:40:23 AM »
thegame: Thanks for posting the USBC response to your personal situation. I too have the Polished SCB (I've now had it for about 2 weeks), and I feel your frustration.

If I read the USBC response correctly, the USBC has no intention of certifying the Polished SCB. We can debate the issue until the cows come home, but the USBC appears to have drawn a line in the sand on this one. If they are looking for a graceful way to approve the Polished SCB, they're going about it in a strange way.

Anyway, I too bought mine for upcoming competitions where the ball, as of now, is not legal. I took some ribbing when I threw it the other night, and I don't want a cloud remaining over the Polished SCB's status. I hope that Lane#1 will address 'next steps' quickly.
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Re: Super Carbide Bomb... Illegal!! Only 2005 Release for the moment
« Reply #132 on: August 26, 2005, 01:46:55 PM »
I think I know what the USBC will do next, if you completely alter (dull to shiny,  shiny to dull) the box finish of a bowling ball you will make that ball illegal in USBC competition.  So that would make almost my entire arsenal illegal.  
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Re: Super Carbide Bomb... Illegal!! Only 2005 Release for the moment
« Reply #133 on: August 26, 2005, 01:50:09 PM »
Maybe, just maybe, the folks that make ball spinners ought to be considering a lawsuit?
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Re: Super Carbide Bomb... Illegal!! Only 2005 Release for the moment
« Reply #134 on: August 26, 2005, 01:52:26 PM »
Another thing, for those of us who have an out of box dull version SCB, at this years nationals, we should all polish ours and wreak havoc at the Tournament!
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Re: Super Carbide Bomb... Illegal!! Only 2005 Release for the moment
« Reply #135 on: August 26, 2005, 02:12:11 PM »
IEQ: Based on what you've read/heard so far, what's your bet on the final USBC status of the Polished SCB?
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