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Matt Fortney

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11 in a row....rings?
« on: August 18, 2007, 05:59:17 AM »
Including 298 and 299, are available for purchase now? 70 bucks? 11 in a row ring?...WHAT??? Anyone else heard of this...sorry if I'm beating a dead horse here, just heard of it today. kind of surprised.

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Re: 11 in a row....rings?
« Reply #16 on: August 19, 2007, 11:24:28 PM »
Ahhhhhhhh USBC now with the merger in place the individuals that were responsible for this have resigned. Wonder why they all of a sudden decided to leave the industry.

Were they forced out? And what kind of payoff did they recieve for leaving

You want to save money, stop spending money on Team USA, really what do they do for the industry. Bowling isn't an Olympic sport, so why is there a Team USA. And why do we as sanctioned bowlers ( some of us don't really care about how they train) have to pay for this.

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Re: 11 in a row....rings?
« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2007, 05:03:59 AM »
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For those who complain about not receiving 298 and 299 rings for free anymore, how many people actually WEAR them?  Frankly, I get tired of hearing about people who have honor scores up the wazoo and keep their honor score rings in the boxes they came in and don't bother wearing them.  At least a plaque can be hung on a wall where it can be seen.



Exactly!  I've got all my plaques out and hanging on the wall.  I'd never wear those rings because I think they look cheap.  Just my opinion.
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Back in the old days you got a gold ring with a ruby looking stone and in the middle had a real diamond. That was a nice ring if anyone has seen them. One ring per lifetime and you get to pick which score and make it a gold ring with a  real stone and if you want another, then you have to buy it.

Thats my opinion......

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Re: 11 in a row....rings?
« Reply #18 on: August 20, 2007, 07:31:24 AM »
I agree with the once in a lifetime award for scores.

But how do you start it now? Particularly if you want the rings to be gold.

Do you say all the bowlers who already have a ring(s) don’t deserve any more? Tough luck you are stuck with Siladium?  

If you say everyone should get one gold ring then the first year they would probably give out 20,000+ gold rings at current gold prices it would break the USBC.

I say stick with the Siladium and grandfather it back so if you already have one then that is it. You get one ring per score lifetime. You want gold it is on your dime.

If you want the better award for free then join a sport league and make honor scores as rare as they used to be.
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Re: 11 in a row....rings?
« Reply #19 on: August 20, 2007, 08:17:50 AM »
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I agree with the once in a lifetime award for scores.

But how do you start it now? Particularly if you want the rings to be gold.

Do you say all the bowlers who already have a ring(s) don't deserve any more? Tough luck you are stuck with Siladium?  

If you say everyone should get one gold ring then the first year they would probably give out 20,000+ gold rings at current gold prices it would break the USBC.

I say stick with the Siladium and grandfather it back so if you already have one then that is it. You get one ring per score lifetime. You want gold it is on your dime.

If you want the better award for free then join a sport league and make honor scores as rare as they used to be.


Gold  on your dime as you put has been available for years. Far as I know its an upgrade you pay for. If your going to make it one ring in a lifetime, them make it something worth having. Change the design so they don't look like a class ring from high school.

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Re: 11 in a row....rings?
« Reply #20 on: August 20, 2007, 08:47:26 AM »
Why would anyone want to walk around with those gawdy looking things anyway. Rings are for chicks. Be a man and get a plaque.
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Re: 11 in a row....rings?
« Reply #21 on: August 20, 2007, 11:27:09 AM »
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BUT, what about the guy that has that one career night, like the 175 ave guy that shoots 298 or 299.


175-average bowlers shoot 298 or 299 all the time.  Ever hear of the Great Wall of China?  Career night, my foot.  All they have to do is bowl against the scratch whiners and the negative bowlatonic particles knock down the extra pins when they tug it through the nose.

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Re: 11 in a row....rings?
« Reply #22 on: August 20, 2007, 11:36:16 AM »
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BUT, what about the guy that has that one career night, like the 175 ave guy that shoots 298 or 299.


175-average bowlers shoot 298 or 299 all the time.  Ever hear of the Great Wall of China?  Career night, my foot.  All they have to do is bowl against the scratch whiners and the negative bowlatonic particles knock down the extra pins when they tug it through the nose.

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Great wall of China? What is that, somewhere the hose is going on his next vacation?

Seriously though. I saw a guy shoot 299 last year with a 170 average. This guy is probably topped out at 170. I have never seen someone so happy as to when he got his ring at the year end banquet. Why does the USBC want to take that away from the Average Joe Bowler. Heck, I might not ever bowl again now. I don't have a problem with them limiting awards to once a lifetime, with the option for the bowler to upgrade to gold. I don't think the USBC should be giving away gold rings, except for 900. The bowler should NOT have to purchase a siladium ring!!!
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Re: 11 in a row....rings?
« Reply #23 on: August 20, 2007, 12:03:18 PM »
Look...the simple answer to this is for USBC to collect the real problem....not put band aids on the results.

Scoring has been out of hand for years....they need to put a lid on it.  They are afraid people will quit if they "fix it".  The problem is that people are going to quit if they don't.

Make 300 and other awards a true monumental feat again and I'll agree with handing out $100 rings for them.
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Re: 11 in a row....rings?
« Reply #24 on: August 20, 2007, 12:23:58 PM »
Well Russell, as easy as that sounds, how do you think the proprietors would respond to that. Pi**ing the bowlers off even more is not what the proprietors want to do. Right now the bowlers love having the easy conditions, and the proprietors like seeing the money coming in the door. Weather or not proprietors like saying it, the league bowler is a good portion of their bottom line.
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Re: 11 in a row....rings?
« Reply #25 on: August 20, 2007, 12:35:53 PM »
Doesn't look like making them easy has kept anyone in the game either.

As scores have gone up..... bowling numbers have gone down.
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Re: 11 in a row....rings?
« Reply #26 on: August 20, 2007, 12:38:56 PM »
Most of the people in charge at the USBC are not really bowlers they are business men and women with little to no background in bowling. Most of there time is spent trying to make profit as a business at any cost good or bad, and not grow the business properly to make more money.  Anyone can make money by running a business to the ground, but when it gets there its over.

As many can tell with the new bowling awards they have gone cheaper and cheaper. I got an 11 in a row award for 290 this summer and they spent more money on shipping then the award.

It's a 3/8" thick piece of black balsa wood from HobbyLobby with a sticker printed off a personal computer and stuck to the front. Yeah, you can make your own awards at home now.

They raise sanction fees and give back less in return. Scores aren't whats killing bowling so much any more as is the cost of bowling and lack of reward.

If you want to buy a bowling ball bag and shoes your looking at an average at most proshops of $50+ for shoes, $35+ for a bag and  probably $100+ for a entry level bowling ball drilled. That doesn't include if the proshop personal try and sell you more expensive stuff that you don't need.

Not to mention the cost of league bowling for 36 weeks in most cases, and if you've been bowling for a while and want to bowl on two or more leagues you better find some extra income, to cover that $30+ a week on bowling.

Yes, there are a lot of honor scores, but once you let that bowling ball technology genie out of the bottle there is no going back. Just like any other of todays sports.
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Re: 11 in a row....rings?
« Reply #27 on: August 20, 2007, 12:42:29 PM »
Let give them a ring. Its hard getting that close and then leaving the 10 pin or whatever..
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Re: 11 in a row....rings?
« Reply #28 on: August 20, 2007, 12:59:53 PM »
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Why should mediocrity be rewarded?

Yearly there are about 50,000 300s shot....

Is that not enough?


Hey guys haven't alot of us shot multiple 3s in our time? Do we need more rings? Why? I don't need a ring for every 300 I shot. I would quit complaining and Bowl.
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Re: 11 in a row....rings?
« Reply #29 on: August 20, 2007, 01:18:59 PM »
I'm not against it for me, I am against it for all of the bowlers who never have throw an award score. If they think membership is down now, wait and see what it is in 5 more yrs. I'll bet withing 10yrs the USBC is no more!
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Re: 11 in a row....rings?
« Reply #30 on: August 20, 2007, 01:20:35 PM »
Yes - I want a ring for every 300 I have bowled... When I first started it was all about me getting the rings or awards but now I give them to relatives.. Last 3 was given to my Aunt and I this year I decided to bowl a 3 for a friend and mail them the ring.. Her father was a bowler and passed this years and I am bowling for her this year...
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