Author Topic: Adjusting to tight finger inserts (Read 18371 times)

bamaster · « **on:** October 23, 2003, 11:28:41 PM »

What do you guys do when your fingers swell where you have to squeeze them into your inserts? I've loosened them up a little with some acetone, but then the grips are too smoothed out.

Is there a type of adjustable finger insert out there?

Tony
http://www.allBowling.com

Brickguy221 · « **Reply #1 on:** October 24, 2003, 02:37:10 PM »

I use inserts that are a wee bit loose and glue them only on the sides and front, leaving the back of them unglued. I then make cardboard shims out of business cards and insert them into the back of the finger holes to tighten or loosen the grips as needed according to how much my fingers swell, shrink, etc. The shims will stay in without gluing them in.

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Keith Frye · « **Reply #2 on:** October 24, 2003, 02:39:26 PM »

Vise grips offers something called Vacu Inserts. The hole is 2/32 larger at the top of the ball to allow for finger swelling. http://viseinserts.com/vacu.htm

ksucat · « **Reply #3 on:** October 24, 2003, 02:46:09 PM »

Similar to Brickguy. Only I use the backing from my pre-cut bowling tape as shims. I already have that available.

bamaster · « **Reply #4 on:** October 24, 2003, 02:51:02 PM »

hehe... I kinda knew someone would mention the Vacu Inserts. I might try them, but I'm on staff with Turbo 2-N-1 Grips.

I like the idea of shimming it. I never thought about that. I'll give it a whirl.

Tony
http://www.allBowling.com

TheDude · « **Reply #5 on:** October 24, 2003, 05:46:28 PM »

LOL i know how you feel bam, i use exclusively Turbos too cause our proshop has a deal with them. But i had someone pass me some other brands of inserts. an option you could try is drilling a 1inch hole instead of 31/32 and just gluing infront of the insert, gives you a give of breathing room, also i've tried to bevel about 1 inch down the insert hole to give a little room for expansion farther down too.

tubros i find are still the best and most comfortable. always soft and grippy.

I've used both ends of the Quad 4s and i've gone to the single lump and it's more durable for me. the little bity bumps never last,

oh yeah ps, your on the Turbo staff, so you have any of those cool turbo shirts? they look really comfy

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charlest · « **Reply #6 on:** October 24, 2003, 06:10:51 PM »

Like Brickguy, I've been doing the shim bit for years now; I use the largest size my fingers can fit into. Then when they shrink I insert shims until it just alows my fingers to fit.

This solves another problem I have. I will often insert my fingers without thinking about it; if the inserts are too large, my fingers goes in below the first joint. In drier weather, like the winter here in the Northeast, especially when I use the rosin bag too much, my finger will dry enough for the skin to crack below the callus. When blood seeps from the cut into the insert, the ball is harder to hold onto ... So if I can only insert up to the first joint, it won't crack.
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Buzzhead · « **Reply #7 on:** October 24, 2003, 08:33:25 PM »

four steps to this solution:

Step #1
Buy one size larger and one size smaller
inserts. buy online they are a ton cheaper!!
Step #2
Buy small narrow bladed pocket knife and
Crazy glue at WALLY WORLD. (small pair of wifes scissors
work but don't let her see you take them!!)
Step #3 Keep all in small pouch on your bowling
bag.
Step #4 Carefully cut inserts out when your fingers
swell and put your other ones in. Don't glue the whole
way around the inserts, they will come out easier the next
time you wanna change em.
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bamaster · « **Reply #8 on:** October 24, 2003, 09:02:33 PM »

quote:
oh yeah ps, your on the Turbo staff, so you have any of those cool turbo shirts? they look really comfy

Well, since I am also on staff with Dyno-thane, my D/T shirts come with the Turbo logos on them. Coincidentally, the folks at Turbo have an embroidery business called Keeping You In Stitches, who do the shirts for D/T. So some of my name shirts are the Turbo styles and the others are the D/T styles.

Tony
http://www.allBowling.com

bamaster · « **Reply #9 on:** October 24, 2003, 09:06:47 PM »

quote:
Bamaster,

As you are on staff with Turbo, Perhaps you should check out their website!!!!!
for their Vacuum Drilling Technique in the Pro Shop - Drilling and Storage section at http://www.turbogrips.com/proshop.htm

Boy, do I feel silly.

Here's the information Mr Buzzsaw UK is referring to...

quote:
Vaccum Drilling Technique

STOP...Wasting your valuable $$$$ on gimmicks. Create a Vacuum with this Simple Drill Technique. Please read instructions fully before drilling. For Tech Support call 1-888-2N1-GRIP.

1. Use 1 1/32" drill bit. Hole should be 1/16" larger than the recommended insert o.d.
2. Drill hole 1" deep.
3. Replace 1 1/32" drill bit with 31/32" or recommended insert o.d. (for stronger vacuum use smaller drill bit i.e. 61/64 for standard o.d. insert)
4. Drill hole the full depth of insert (Quad inserts 1 3/4", Standard 2-N-1 1 3/8")
5. You have now created a cone at the bottom of the hole.
6. Install finger insert. Glue bottom of grip into smaller hole. *When creating a vacuum grip you must use at least 2 sizes smaller than standard
finger tip size. Grip will expand and fill most of the hole.
7. Apply adhesive (Turbo Ultra Zip recommended) to the front of hole, between finger insert and bowling ball. ONLY apply glue to the front wall.

Best uses for Vacuum Drilling Technique: Fitting Customers who swell Fitting Customers in between sizes Market as a new product or service offering. You can be the first pro shop in your area to use the technique. You can attract new customers and charge more for expert service.

Tony
http://www.allBowling.com

bamaster · « **Reply #10 on:** November 13, 2003, 03:47:40 PM »

Well, I tried this. And I love it!

I posted a small illustration and review on my website. If you have a problem with swelling fingers, read the article I wrote. It might just save your life! Ok, maybe not your life, but you get the idea.

Tony
http://www.allBowling.com

scotts33 · « **Reply #11 on:** November 15, 2003, 08:36:30 AM »

Tony--Lil off topic.

quote:
Well, since I am also on staff with Dyno-thane, my D/T shirts come with the Turbo logos on them. Coincidentally, the folks at Turbo have an embroidery business called Keeping You In Stitches, who do the shirts for D/T. So some of my name shirts are the Turbo styles and the others are the D/T styles.

Why doesn't DT offer shirts on their website? Do they sell them?

Thanks,
Scott

Spike2112 · « **Reply #12 on:** November 15, 2003, 09:33:12 AM »

I suffer from the tight-insert problem myself and found that a very sharp exacto knife and some careful trimming the inside of my lifts (not the actual "lift" part) can make for a perfect fit with no degradation to the lifts themselves. Seems like althought I get the same size lifts in every ball I take in, they all have a different feel. Some are a bit snugger than others and just a few minutes with the exacto knife and they all fit perfect.
Just the way I do it...
Spike

Nicanor · « **Reply #13 on:** November 15, 2003, 09:35:52 AM »

I use the Vacu grips but I believe you can do the same thing with any flexible insert. drill the finger hole the same as always then go up one size in drill bit (test a little at a time till you get the feeling you want) and drill down but not the way down. Leave the bottom 3/4 of an inch the first drill bit size and place the insert in the finger hole, glue the back bottom of the insert and the top front only. This will in most cases act like a vacu grip without having to use the green sleeves.

V/R,

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tburky · « **Reply #14 on:** November 15, 2003, 10:12:48 AM »

I haved use Vacu Grips for over a year and about 5 weeks ago I started having finger pains and tingling in my fingers (middle and ring finger only). So, I went to my ball driller and we started looking at my hand and equipment. I haven't really noticed but I had knots on the sides of both fingers. Also, I told him I have been feeling pressure on the tops of my fingers while I was bowling. Although I use 1/4" reverse in both fingers, my ball driller did not feel this was the problem. So, he decided it was probably the vacu grips. We pulled out the vacu grips in 3 balls and put transistion sleeves in the ball and regular grips. Finally, no more pain in my fingers while I bowl. From time to time since then, while not bowling I still get occasional tingling in those 2 fingers. I decided to go to the doctor to see what was going on. I explained to the doctor about bowling and my equipment and he wanted me to get 1 of my balls that still had vacu grips in it. He had me place my fingers in the ball and he saw the really snug fit. I explained to him how the grips worked and he said I may have done some nerve damage from using the grips that are too tight. He said time will tell the story on whether or not the tingling goes away. I know some people are going to say I should have used 1 size up in the grips but I tried that and it was way too loose. I thought I would pass the information to everyone about my experience with vacu grips. Don't get me wrong I am not trying to tell people not to use vacu grips because I believe they are a good thing. I want everyone to be aware that if they start having finger problems using vacu grips they may need to go back to regular grips. Since I use vise grips, they make 1/2 sizes and I carry them and change my grips out when my fingers swell up. I just put a drop of glue on the front and on the side (side away from bridge)so that I can change very easily if I need to change. I wish turbo would make 1/2 sizes because I like turbo better than vise.

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